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Enhancement Cores & Bungie’s Insanity

Insanity = doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result. The players are never going to give this enhancement core argument up Bungie, so instead of driving away your player base why not just remove them from infusion at least. So then normal players, not just YouTubers and Streamers who live the game, can collect enough cores to actually masterwork some stuff. THAT should be the “meaningful choice”. What are you so afraid of? [b][i]Please select all that apply.[/i][/b] - players enjoying the game more. - players feeling more fulfilment in progress. - players wasting less hours of their lives. - lower level gear could become relevant. - players blood pressure levels would drop. - players realise power level isn’t noticeable. - all of the above. Also why is it that once you hit max LIGHT (pointless change to “Power” btw) items don’t drop at max light so that you can bring all your gear up to current standard. Like in Destiny 1. You can’t force people to play longer just because you believe it makes it more “special”. YOU ARE WRONG, it makes the game even more tedious and irritating, so get over it and remove them. Thank you. That is all ✌️ - Wow, well over 100 upvotes in one day! Let’s see if they really are listening 😏

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  • Edited by kellygreen2: 4/15/2019 12:33:31 PM
    1. They're afraid that we'll reach level cap....realize that there really isn't any loot to chase....and we'll stop playing. They don't trust the game they've made enough to believe that we'll keep playing it because we enjoy it. 2. They dont' drop at max light, because Bungie's goal is to wring as much play as possible from a limited amount of content. So having the soft cap far below level cap ties into the role in the game cores play. [u] [b]Here's the scam.[/b][/u] a. The game has no end-game basically, because there is no loot to chase. But Bungie's goal is to keep us playing by trapping us in an unending, MID-GAME item level grind so that we don't notice this. b. So you throttle vertical progression wtih Milestones so you stretch out the grind to level cap for as long as possible. c. You bottleneck infusion with cores, so that players can't level up the gear they want... (more on this laters) d. You keep players grinding by doling out the game's rewards with an eyedropper. So everything new either had really low drop rates, or is awarded after a very lengthy, STRUCTURED grind. e. ONCE YOU REACH LEVEL CAP, A SECOND GRIND KICKS IN BECAUSE YOU'VE BOTTLENECKED INFUSION....THE GRIND TO BRING THE GEAR YOU LIKE UP TO LEVEL CAP. f. So now you're forced to grind for either the necessary cores to infuse the gear you want to play with up to level cap......or continue to grind MILESTONES (!!) so you can get duplicates at level cap so you can infuse with Glimmer rather than cores. g. But before the vast majority of players can accomplish this, you raise level cap (!!) which kicks you back down to the mid-game item level grind [b](sub-point a)[/b] ....and the process repeats itself(!!) Or the player realizes that they're on a -blam!-ing HAMSTER WHEEL that doesn't go anywhere....chasing after a loot MIRAGE that Bungie has made intentionally elusive, and is intentionally blocking you from enjoying. As they try to condition you to accept unpredictable progression and unpredictable rewards, yet continue to grind away in frustration. Which is why when people think "-blam!- this Noise"....and they either quit....or drastically cutback their involvement in the game. THAT is why Bungie isnt' going to win this fight....and every game devleoper who has tried to win this kind of fight with the player base either backs down....or destroys their own game.

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    • Edited by LazyTitan: 4/15/2019 10:44:08 PM
      Different opinion here Try using cores efficiently, and leave fashion as endgame. Try new stuff on the way to the top, hit max way before new power level raise, start a stockpile, eliminate this problem.

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      • IMO cores are common enough. Between drops from scrapping, scrapper bounties, and buying them from spider, you can easily get enough cores to make a level 10 masterwork in a week. It really doesn't seem unreasonable. Also, not sure why more time playing the game = better gear seems unfair to you. That's how it should be. People who did more work should be rewarded for their work.

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        • I agree with all of it! Bungie seems to think this is a $14.99 a month to play game like swg , swtor and wow.

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          • Surprised this post is still here, i'd figured Bungie would of tossed it in the trash like the rest of them

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            • Edited by Redbone: 4/15/2019 2:25:37 PM
              Light Level is the most bullshit mechanic in any type of RPG to date.[b] It only exists to Handicap players, never to reward them[/b]. If you are a lower light, you melt like butter. Why is it that im not 1-shotting the 20 Light Level Dregs in the EDZ with my Sidearm at 690 Light?[b] I have more light NOW than when I defeated Oryx for -blam!- sake Bungie.[/b] #[b][u]MAKELIGHTLEVELSMATTER[/u][/b]

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              • Bungie has showed the player base that they don't care.

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                • Cores RUINED Destiny for me. Played for 4 years and quit last October because of this tedious BS. I just had enough. Unless cores are REMOVED COMPLETELY, I will never return to D2 or purchase their season pass. And if it's in D3, won't play THAT either. Just done.

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                  • Last people playing: 1. streamers 2. addicts 3. authists I was an addict from start of november 2018 to Feb. 2019. Quit and never looked back, but my actual game has maintenance I check these forums for laughs. Boy Bungie doesnt disappoint. They ve reached a point whe players wont come back for a better game but want to see Bungie take a bow, be submissive and apologize for the mess they sold as agame.

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                    • Edited by AUTOMATIK 2006: 4/15/2019 1:59:52 PM
                      The main reason they are there is to keep players having a goal to upgrade. If every player had everything upgraded, then they would get bored and play other games.

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                      • Well, you nailed it

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                      • Oh man people thought the +5 infusion was bad...

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                      • Destiny 3: No Loot, Just Cores! You dont shoot bullets from your guns, you shoot cores! You Dont Loot Gear / Weapons, you loot Cores! You Dont Fight Wave after Wave of Mobs & Bosses... You FIGHT CORES! Shoot Cores At Cores, to Loot Cores, So you Can Upgrade your CORES With CORES!!! I cant Wait!

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                        • #LeaveEnhancementCoresAlone

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                        • In your opinion sure. Don’t think everyone else shares it.

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                        • Edited by TJM99: 4/16/2019 1:03:17 AM
                          I'm willing to say Destiny has the most ridiculously toxic community ever. It's not even elitist hate anymore for people not having Gjallarhorn anymore. We're arguing over something that: has no positive impact does absolutely nothing for the game in its current state except make it worse for most players more than others if it was changed would objectively benefit everyone provides a happy medium between thoughtful and unpainful infusion is recurrent season after season and is pushing people away each time We actually are willing to demean, and insult others and treat them like complete stupid children as if we were their parents and need to tell them what to do. [i][b]WE CAN'T AGREE ON ANYTHING AND THAT IS SAD.[/b][/i]

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                          • They aren’t that bad just don’t infuse shit. As you said light level really doesn’t matter just out on matching gear with good stats and be a little low or put on your highest gear and have it not look good.

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                          • John Snow found out he is Aegon Targaryen on last night's GoT.

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                            • Agree, and they should also get rid of light level as well... I mean why should I have to play to get higher light gear in the first place, lets all just log in to wave and dance together, I want all my exotics given to me as its to much work, credit for all raid completions and every weapon with every possible roll.... this playing a game crap has got to end. Honestly, I play a few times a week and still have more then enough cores to do what ever I want.... I have no idea what everyone is doing that they have to complain so much. Welcome to the " He has it so I should have it" generation.

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                              • Cores aren’t hard to get at all. Play the game. Stop complaining about cores.

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                                • I am max power level and all my powerful gear has been dropping at 700 what are you on about.

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                                  • [quote]Insanity = doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result. The players are never going to give this enhancement core argument up Bungie, so instead of driving away your player base why not just remove them from infusion at least. So then normal players, not just YouTubers and Streamers who live the game, can collect enough cores to actually masterwork some stuff. THAT should be the “meaningful choice”. What are you so afraid of? [b][i]Please select all that apply.[/i][/b] - players enjoying the game more. - players feeling more fulfilment in progress. - players wasting less hours of their lives. - lower level gear could become relevant. - players blood pressure levels would drop. - players realise power level isn’t noticeable. - all of the above. Also why is it that once you hit max LIGHT (pointless change to “Power” btw) items don’t drop at max light so that you can bring all your gear up to current standard. Like in Destiny 1. You can’t force people to play longer just because you believe it makes it more “special”. YOU ARE WRONG, it makes the game even more tedious and irritating, so get over it and remove them. Thank you. That is all ✌️[/quote] The [i]true[/i] definition of insanity [i]is[/i] to do [b]different[/b] things, and still get the [b][i]same[/i][/b] result. Bungie has tweaked core frequencies how many times now? For the majority of players who haven't been blessed by RNGesus, cores are [b]still[/b] an issue. If [i][b]that[/b][/i] isn't insanity, I don't know what is.

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                                    • They are definitely not listening. However, their little -blam!-ing ninjas are damn sure censoring anyone who doesn’t agree with bungie.

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                                      • Really sucks that the 5 guys I played with constantly all gave up(including me). I’m paid through the end of the pass so I’ll pop in sooner or later but I’m fed up

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                                        • Rumor has it they are adding a new quest for cores. You will pay 2 cores and then need to get 1000 head shots in competitive, do 500 zavala bounties, and tell Drifter you're sorry for snitching. In return you get a random item, which can be 1 core. Once you have done that quest 2000 times, you get the achievement "Ate paint chips" and a position at Bungie.

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                                          • Yeah kinda why I like how the division does it. Granted a ton of crap, but at least you can save a lot of it for different builds or transferring stats. Plus they drop mods a ton now ive noticed.

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