Still more rewarding than Anthem. If destiny loot is embarrassing, idk what Anthem loot would be

Seasonal weapon grind let's say the service revolver 40 bloody strikes is that going to be every time a new weapon comes out?!?! Especially when there's no strike specific loot to grind for. In D1 getting the faction exotic class item required only 25 and that was already enough of a grind. We want to have fun getting the weapon a bit of a grind is ok not to feel like a choir and take up alot of our time, we want to do other activities. Said this for D1 the rng side would massively improve if you could within time unlock all perks on the weapon and armour for everyone to pick and use and be able to require in the collections, solving vault space and actually be able to collect them all and use them as you wish. Or even having the exact same weapon let me fuse them together swap perks and build up to that god roll. So many guns missing that 1 or 2 perks that my other roll has making them both average. And let us choose the masterwork for the weapon.

think about it , can not even play with small group of friends on the old raids . even so they can enjoy it , and then there no gear or weapons , there no reason recommend the game , but then play division 2 like omfg , game again . What sad is destiny 1 was going in right direction then who every decided go the destiny 2 way should be fired , and done if luke smith then he needs to go , if not he need explain wtf happen . as man or human or women .

I could've sworn I Liked this post 2 times. [spoiler]bungo sux[/spoiler]

At least you got to raid. Was AFI until last ten days of Black armory. Grind like hell got 650 and Izanagi’s Burden just in time to grind ANOTHER 50 points. I’m 700 on all three characters and have experience in Levi and all D1 raids... Can’t even get my foot in the door now. I’m bored to death right now. My schedule means only certain times I can play (6-9pm est) and the future on endless Reckoning runs is not appealing. One can only grind so many cores... 😞 So, suck it up chief. And by the way literally 100 CE runs and not one Black Hammer or weapon core for Necrochasm. Shit happens, man.

Anyone who hangs around and hopes things will actually get better should be embarrassed. RNG leveling. RNG titles. RNG lore. If you can't take a step back and see how absurd it all really is, well then I guess you must be that core audience Bungie's been looking for.

I get why you would be so “passionate” but at the end of the day it’s just a game. Take a long break, play something else and don’t let shit like this get you so worked up. Check in on updates and see if they’re to your liking and if not then -blam!- it.

My issue is them acknowledging certain drops or sets of themed drops being very unlikely to drop, and *sometimes* doing something about it. Look at the pinned post regarding the new jokers wild weaponry - they're going to implement bad luck protection. In the case of anything particularly desirable, random rolls keep the grind going. For one off drops that don't impact gameplay and are just there for the sake of completion, bad luck protection should *always* be a thing. Dreaming City ghost and ship are wonderful examples. The Ghost is neat look but offers no unique perk. Nothing that sets it apart from the rest. Ships are irrelevant. They act as a conduit for your transmat effect. Any ship can take any effect. Other than that... they don't do anything. So... Why are they so difficult for so many people to obtain? Even when I get those drops, I'm not going to suddenly stop playing Destiny. My attention simply shifts to the real grind. Looking for things that have random rolls, and getting the best of that thing. These triumph seals have killed this game for me. I've been missing a single braytech schematic weapon for over six months. Grinding Mars is now downright irritating to me. I don't want 18 Kelvins for any reason other than having one less thing to worry about. Bungie just needs to realize that creating artificial grind for mundane items isn't going to make people happy.

Bungie complained about how fast people burn through content in D1 and they can't keep up with the players. There answer to this is to hold players back and slow down their progress. That's why they have things like enhancement cores and strict RNG on raids and nightfalls and back then EP was ridiculous. They have content with expiration dates and limited time to get items to keep you coming back like Iron banner and faction rallies. They treat gamers like kids holding them and force sand box updates down the players throats because they want you to play how they want you to play and not how you want to. Limited space in vault and mods etc to keep you making you delete things and spend money on eververse to make money if you want to reaquire something or get something before the season ends. Alot of things don't make since. Like nerfing exotics like shards of galonor and making blades useless in pve but buff the slow nova and exotic skull helmet to replace what galanor was doing. What was the point. Keeping breaking things in there own game with these dumb nerfs. Thank you for finally bringing back LMGs just to screw them over when we don't already have many Legendary heavys to keep up with exotic heavy weapons. Make the Titan more useful too with a better DPS super for raids. And why you can't bring back Titans blessing and weapons of light but we have warlock super rifts which is more OP. Just dumb decisions. I could right a novel of the poor decisions they make. And stop abandoning your pass content like you did in D1. Having you guys learned your lesson. You bring up everything but the cool activities you can play with friends. Make the EP and BW matter with specific loot and Loot and random rolls. Bring back the old raids with random roles! It's not rocket science Bungie. It's common sense. Something people there lack.

The problem with Vanilla Destiny 2 is that you got everything quickly and everything was garbage as well. The problem now is there is still a lot of garbage, they just made it harder to get, so even when you do get what you are after, it doesn't really feel like you got anything. Replaying Borderlands 2, it does take some time to get Legendaries, Seraphs, and Pearls you are after, but damn if it doesn't feel so satisfying when you get it, not just because of their rarity, but because of the power you get. It took me forever to get a perfectly rolled Double Penetrating Unkempt Harrold, but the ability to melt enemies and bosses with just a tiny pistol made it all worth it, especially when combined with another rare drop, The Bee shield. It also doesn't help that this game is so damned limiting on what you can equip so there is only so much customization and optimization can put towards "Builds". But this is what happen when you focus more on "Balance" than fun, the game gets stale, the rewards are boring, and even all the hours of grinding can't make up for it. I would rather spend days/months/years grinding for powerful, fun gear than spending hours/days getting dull gear, especially some that I can only have 1 of in a slot.

Try getting everything you want in the first 2 weeks of the season and not having any goals to set. It's equally as frustrating, if not more so. You get a reward and you delete it, while your friends all get excited over their loot. At least you have something to look forward to.

You just need to be able to progress each time you play. If you don't play much, it'll be slow etc, but you should never be bored of playing, else it's not worth playing.

The RNg is not the issue. The time-gating is the problem. As the raids are time-gated on a weekly basis. Same goes for some of the exotic quests which also have time-gating issues. The Izanagi's Burden quest for example is shady as F*** requiring a rare bounty, and the completion of a strike which only occurs every three weeks. The game shouldn't have any time gated content as far as I'm concerned. Just let players play until they burn out, they paid for the game after all it's up to them how they want to play it.

I need the EP SMG for Wayfarer. But I am so sick to death of running EP on that chance that I've given up. The answer is simple - a not-unreasonable guarantee in each category of RNG except god rolls. If I were designing this game, and I had a player who had run COUNTLESS EPs, I'd know he only has this one reward left - and his NEXT EP completion would yield that thing, no question, hands-down. Everyone has a breaking point, and it's not rocket science to figure out how far to take a person before they break...

People were complaining about missing random Perks. Now they are complaining about rng... WTF ?