Why should I? Last time they had a summit, the mess that was Warmind was the result? And how much of that content was such an overly convoluted mess that you HAD to look it up on YT? Quite a fricking lot if you didn't have hours to waste figuring it out for no good reason. Veey few of them have ever had much good to say that would make the game more fun. Most only care about what makes the game play for longer, which I don't much care for. Unlike them, I like to be done with a game at some point.
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From both D2 season pass dlc's was Warmind the more loved one. Yeah, maybe it was unfair at the beginning for some people but you know what? Online gaames don't live only from accessibility. They also live from replayability and endgame. And the endgame in Warmind was better than CoO and D2Y1.
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Replayability and fun are not mutually exclusive, mate. You can make a replayable experience without mucking it up with nonsense. Bungie just doesn't seem to know how. And so what if it was slightly better than CoO? Slightly better crap is still crap.
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And then came forsaken. And people had fun [i]*ooofff*[/i] And then came black armory and people had things to do [i]*ooofff2*[/i] And now we have Season fo the drifter alias The jokers wildcard... And you know what? People had fun [i]*ooofff3*[/i] Yeah, not everyone likes every content (alot of people dislike pvp, gambit and the raids) but you can't make everyone happy. That's like trying to get North Korea, USA, Russia and Turkey on one table, hugging aand kissing each other. It is almost impossible.
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[quote]And then came forsaken. And people had fun [i]*ooofff*[/i][/quote] I had so little fun that I quit playing after a couple of weeks having been a daily player for years. For the same reasons a lot of other people have cited here - tedious, protracted, monotonous gameplay set up so that the Leaders of the Core Community didn't get Mad Online again. Can't speak for the rest of the annual pass for obvious reasons ... even though I paid for it. Last cent Bungie will be getting from me unless and until they show clearly that they're serious about making their game a fun experience again.
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Like I said: Not everyone can be served. Let us take a different game: Forza Horizon for example. I heared it is a good racing game. But for me personally I see no fun in racing around alone or with others (except if it is mario cart). But alot of people have fun with it. In Destiny 2 I'm not happy with everything they do, but I have fun at some points. Even in gambit prime (except when I die because I can't see shit on the screen from distance)
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I don't think you understand. I wouldn't have minded some changes, but for me they basically took all the fun out of the game in the post-Forsaken era. All of it. You can see I'm far from alone in that opinion. I haven't logged in since September, having played and enjoyed more or less daily since mid-D1. I'm not a "casual" (whatever that means), but I'm not a nolife Hardcore Skillz Guy either. If players like me aren't around to subsidise Y3 - which I personally won't be unless things change radically - the game has no future.
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I'm pretty sure the franchise will still get to D3 release before any dead is in sight.
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Edited by d3benway: 3/15/2019 12:29:14 AMMaybe it will, although I have severe doubts personally. But certainly if they're going to double down on this focus on the Core Community as they put it themselves (aka streamers), it's inevitably going to turn into a much lower budget niche thing rather than the full on AAA extravaganza that people are used to - it needs accessibility and a fun factor in order to bring in sales, and given that they've Forsaken (narf) this in year 2 and show no sign of changing course I'm guessing D3 will end up being a much more bare bones affair pitched strictly for the most desperate dopamine junkies. If - and that's a big if - it ever happens.
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That was a result of Bungie's own thought process, not primarily following the opinions of streamers, nitwit. Forsaken was the answer to complaints about CoO and Warmind when they realized people -blam!-ing hated them. Try again.
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[quote]And the endgame in Warmind was better than CoO and D2Y1.[/quote] Absolutely spot on true. But that’s like saying I am immensely wealthy bc I found a normal average beat up penny in the parking lot. Yes, I’m financially better off than before, but that’s not saying a lot bc before I was drop dead broke! lol