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Edited by Hawpy: 2/19/2019 4:16:51 PM
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Warlock Supers are bad.

Let me preface this by getting this much out of the way - Well of Radiance is a necessary, well-respected PvE Super for any serious content that is understandably and rightfully awful in PvP, like bubble of old. With that said, in PvP Warlocks have no good option for a Super besides bottom tree Dawnblade, which forsakes all of your neutral game to benefit it. Daybreak is okay without the tracking when using the top tree but the whole aerial combat thing just doesn't work at all. In Stormtrance and Nova Warp, you have the two worst PvP roaming Supers by an incredibly wide margin. It's no secret that Spectral Blades is in a league of its own but the gap between these two and something like Hammer of Sol is immense. The recent Nova Warp nerfs crippled it and put it in the ICU. Don't get me wrong, it needed nerfing, but no one other than someone saying it in a salty rage would actually ask for this much. It's not viable anywhere. It gets demolished by other mob-clearing abilities in PvE and is just a drag to use in PvP - at the time of the nerf it wasn't even the highest ranking Subclass for Winrate OR KDA on both Console and PC (stats from guardian.gg) The singular Stormtrance buff was pathetic. "Use Crown of Tempests!" I hear you say. What happens when you do? You kill all of the menacing Thralls that were marauding your helpless fireteam and then what? You have half of your Super left and nothing to use it on. Its damage against Majors is still pretty terrible, versus other Supers, and its job for killing mobs is easily accomplished by any gun with Rampage or Dragonfly. Stormtrance is very "feast or famine" except every feast is followed by famine anyway. [spoiler]When I did Last Wish this week, one of our regulars (who usually uses Stormtrance) wasn't there. Usually, we would leave mob-killing at Shuro Chi to him. This time, someone tried using Loaded Question - it was undoubtedly better at killing.[/spoiler] Nova Bomb was buffed nicely...…...or so I thought. I have seen clips of Nova Bomb doing massive damage to [spoiler]INSURRECTION PRIME[/spoiler] but I believe that to be a side effect of the boss having many hitboxes that are damaged at once, much like using Dark-Drinker against Aksis. The tag-line about Nova Bomb was "now not just for large groups" or something to that effect, meaning effectiveness against bosses and major targets. I thought that the huge percentage increases to both variants of Nova Bomb meant it would be top-tier at boss killing - not exactly Nighthawk levels but at least good enough to justify using. I was sorely disappointed to realise that it is easily out-damaged by both post-nerf Blade Barrage AND buffed Arc Staff, two Supers that were already much better and far more versatile. Chaos Reach. Oh how I wish I could say you were great. Easily the best and most well-rounded Super at a Warlock's disposal, in my opinion (and elevated even higher when using Geomag Stabilizers), but not without some glaring issues. First of which would be the camera - this isn't something that can be completely solved, but the combined screen-space taken up by your player model and the beam itself make it very difficult to see what you're hitting, especially at longer ranges. Speaking of longer ranges, my word is the hit detection at range just dismal. In both PvE and PvP I have many experiences of clearly hitting a target with the beam and them simply not taking damage. In PvE, it's a minor inconvenice as an enemy that far away shouldn't trouble you. In PvP, however, it's inexcusable if that target was an enemy Super who gets away and proceeds to kill half of your team. Before you say it's just bad aim, I'm not the only person to have this happen and I've had eyewitnesses say "why isn't it dead?". Can't wait for the 2 people who read this to be Hunters who complain and tell me that the extra 3 seconds added to Daybreak make it broken and OP and it needs to be nerfed. Rant over. Edit: General consensus is that I'm underrating Attunement of Chaos, which I'm happy to agree with. Seems like most people have the same view as me on Stormtrance and Chaos Reach, but opinion is a lot more divided on Daybreak. Edit 2: A lot of comments about Warlocks being heavily geared towards PvE, which I definitely see - Exotics in particular. Stormtrance probably isn't as lacklustre as I've made it out to be, but there is still a point to be made that it can't beat other Supers in a 1v1, meaning you have to get yours incredibly early in the match or use it very late, after all the others have been cast (and use less per game, which is obviously undesirable). Edit 3: A lot of comments suggesting Attunement of Chaos plus Tractor Cannon. Will happily give it a go next time I can, particularly in Gambit. Maybe not in any Endgame stuff as I am often the only Warlock to use Well of Radiance in my regular group.

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