[quote]Okay, let me preface this by saying that I don't have Luna's or Not Forgotten, and I've been filleted by them more times than I can count. The one thing that makes these weapons as good as they are is the Magnificent Howl perk. Without Magnificent howl, a god rolled Trust is better in almost every way to both Luna's and Not Forgotten. However, this doesn't mean that these weapons are unfair. This perk is the reward for a very high level of competitive play. The problems arise when people take a weapon from very high level competitive play and introduce it into lower level play, creating an imbalance. What Bungie need to do, is introduce weapons that have a similarly powerful perk in high skill levels or in other activities. Make a better version of Trust (like Breakneck is to Hazard of the Cast) and make that available through playing a lot of and being very good at Gambit. Make a weapon like Luna's and Not Forgotten that you get for resetting your Valor rank Twice in a season, this weapon's stats even on a god roll, would never be the same as Luna's or Not Forgotten, but would be a mixture of the two. Create a weapon that you get through doing the nightfall in a certain time, that also has ridiculous perks, that just effect another archetype of gun. We already have an auto rifle with an awesome perk, A Scout rifle with an awesome perk, and two hand cannons with an awesome perk available through playing certain activities, broaden the activities and broaden the rewards. Going forward in Destiny, we as a community, need to start moving away from "Nerf this" or "Nerf that" and we need to start moving towards "Buff these to compete with this and that" Remember when Graviton Lance got really good? Then Bungie Buffed or Released new weapons and perks that kicked it out of the meta. (This is also Posted On r/destinythegame) #BuffsNotNerfs[/quote] A pinnacle weapon like Lunas and not forgotten that are hard to get shouldn't be nerfed. I can't do a raid because I suck at raids does that means raid weapons should be nerf because I can't obtain them no. All my friends we all pvp only so we should be rewarded with weapons that are high skill rewards. Players that don't pvp and only raid can't complain about pvp because they don't play pvp. Alot of the player base that don't have Lunas or not forgotten are players that are not good at pvp........
If the raid weapons got used in pvp I could see you stating that but they don’t so that’s a poor analogy
[quote]If the raid weapons got used in pvp I could see you stating that but they don’t so that’s a poor analogy[/quote] That's because raid players don't use the raid weapons in pvp because they don't pvp. Majority of the players who complain about Lunas are players who don't pvp players who do other activities like raids.
I do both and raid weapons really aren’t used in pvp because there are far better weapons.
Pvp weapons are better in pvp of course. Thats why bungie have pve and pvp if you're not good in pve and think is boring and you're skilled well go to pvp that's how I look at it. If you suck in pvp stay out of it is not for everyone. ]