I have been grinding the forges pretty darn hard and at this point I pretty much have got everything. I have good rolls on all the weapons I want, I completed the grueling Izanagi's Burden quest, and recently I got Jotunn after a while of grinding out gold frames on two characters. [u]What incentive do I have now to even do any forge-related content?[/u] Forge activities are not something that I would do just for fun. They're extremely repetitive and sometimes irritating (i.e. Electric Shanks and immune bosses) I feel a bit disenchanted with the black armory overall. At this point I really see how hollow the Black Armory content has been. Looking back it just seems like it was mostly tedius, monotonous "busy work". Maybe its just me. I hope for more meaningful and enjoyable content in Jokers Wild... Edit: It seems many people are missing my point. Essentially, I am very sick of forges because the weapons are cool but all the repetitive grind to get them is not fun. I am happy that I finally don't have to do any more of that crap.