Dear Bungie, I'm an auto rifle guy, I like playing with them. Don't know why, maybe I just really like the sight of the health bar of my opponent fluently decreasing till I kill him. We currently have a meta with Shotguns and Luna's Howl/Not forgotten and Bygones also of course. I don't like playing shotguns and I don't have Luna's Howl. Pulses are mehh.. I have a good Trust hand cannon, but it gets boring to have to rely solely on my Trust to have a chance in crucible and even then I'm getting outshot by Luna's Howl and Not Forgottens. So we have these meta weapons that are really strong and to be competitive there are very few other options. Why not buff other weapon types a little? Like auto rifles for example! :) Auto rifles need a buff I can tell you. I really don't understand some of the basic principles you seem to have used desiging auto rifles. To compete in this meta, you need to able to land consistent head shots. But the design of every type of Ar (360, 450, 600, 720) seems to make being competive with them, unreachable. They all have really big recoil. Even more, the lower the rpm, the bigger the recoil seems to get. A Halfdan-d for exemple is a low rpm AR with great range. The range would mean that you could keep your distance from Luna's (currently the only way to counter a Luna's) but keeping my distance with a Halfdan-d is not usefull at all. Why? Well because the recoil of a Halfdan-d (or Loquitor) is so big that it is practically impossible to land consistent head shots on bigger ranges. You need to bring yourself closer to the Luna players, but that means you get in their range, making the changes to win the fight zero. Serious question, why does this weapon have so much range if you can't use it? The same aplies to 450 rpm auto rifles by the way. How about 600 and 720 AR's you ask me? Well, they have a little less recoil (still too much imo) but they have way less range. So those weapons, if you want to be in range, have to compete against Luna's/Not Forgotten, Chaperone, Dust Rock Blues, Mindbender's ambition, Trust, Ace of Spades etc. You have about zero chance to do consistently good with a 600 or 720 AR when you are in the territory of these weapons. On top of that, the TTK is just a little too high in my opinion. To be clear, I'm not asking for laser like precision with Auto Rifles, but please, can you just give Auto Rifles a buff? Far less recoil/more stability would already be nice, but maybe also a slight damage buff? All I'm asking is a fair chance with an Auto Rifle in crucible.