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[quote]Yes, it's been out for seven hours, and the only DLC related thing I've done is kill powerful enemies with power weapons for quest steps. The main meat of the DLC, which is the forge, requires a power level that will take at least another week or two of milestones to even comfortably participate in.[/quote] So? You keep playing the game like you have for the last three months. Another week isn't going to kill you. [quote]I don't want to do the same shit I've been doing for the past 2 months to play the new content. Just imagine if the first story mission of forsaken launched at level 50 with a 500 recommended light.[/quote] Where you planning on grinding the forge until 650? I would think it would be obvious given the light level of Last Wish that end-game stuff would require some grinding. [quote]I came into this update thinking I was going to grind the forge and get some new gear. Turns out, I have to grind old shit still just to even consider grinding the forge.[/quote] So you have to play some parts of the game, to play other parts. Oh no! [quote] See, I didn't pay 10 dollars for black armory. I paid [b]THIRTY.[/b] YOU HAVE TO PAY 30 DOLLARS OUT OF THE GATE TO PLAY BLACK ARMORY. AND THIS IS WHAT WE GET FOR PAYING THIRTY DOLLARS. THEY ARE NOT SOLD SEPERATELY. My friend, who got the DLC this morning, dropped THIRTY DOLLARS to play this wack ass update. There is NO EXCUSE. [/quote] Thirty bucks for nine months of new stuff. What you get for thirty dollars has been well documented. New modes like forge, new raids every three months, etc... You played the first mission, that is it. If you are going to whine about content for money you should at least play all of it first. [quote] Defense #3 Yes, the -blam!- it is an expansion. You have to pay money for additional content that expands the game for you and adds new activities. That is DLC. It is an [i]expansion.[/i] A terrible one. [/quote] Terrible based on what? You played one story mission out nine months of additions. Get some perspective. A raid every three months alone is worth $10. [quote]More content later, doesn't excuse what we have now. What we have now, is an activity that barely anyone is able to complete because for some odd reason, they wanted to set the light level to 15 above what the max was yesterday.[/quote] It will be difficult for a week. Probably less if one has multiple characters. [quote]By the time the raid and the second forge come out, most of us will just be nearing the point where we can actually beat the first damn forge.[/quote] The raid comes out Friday. You are having a hissy fit because you will have to play other parts of the game for a few days. [quote]If I drop 30 dollars on something, I expect to be able to play the content it brings. I can't do Black Armory Forges, which was the main -blam!-ing selling point. I'm not high enough yet. I have to keep running the same milestone hamster wheel that I've been running since last expansion until I am. That isn't good. That isn't fair.[/quote] Not fair? How so? Everyone is in the same boat, and you can play the forges your just not good enough to beat them at the your power delta. That will probably last a couple days.
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  • Oh god, this is a long one. [quote]So? You keep playing the game like you have for the last three months. Another week isn't going to kill you.[/quote] [quote]You keep playing the game like you have for the last three months.[/quote] Yes, oh wise one. That is definitely something I looked forward to doing the day black armory dropped, I couldn't wait to do my milestone chore once again for the billionth time because I am underleveled, even though I was max level the day before. I wanted new content to grind because there was literally no point for me to do milestones anymore. I was a comfortable 600. [/quote]Where you planning on grinding the forge until 650? I would think it would be obvious given the light level of Last Wish that end-game stuff would require some grinding. [/quote] I was planning on grinding [i]all[/i] the forges until 650. I figured this forge would keep me busy until the next, and so forth. But no. Like you said, I must grind another week of [i]old content.[/i] The difference between Last Wish and Volundr forge, bud, is that we had not only a content drop with new campaign missions, two new patrol zones, new exotic quests and an entire new game mode to chew on, but we also had a week to prepare for it. There's nothing you could have done to prepare for Volundr. [quote]So you have to play some parts of the game, to play other parts. Oh no![/quote] You're still failing to see the point, here. I. Don't. Want. To. Grind. Old. Milestone. Content. That. We've. Had. Since. Forsaken. Dropped. I. Want. To. Grind. The. New. Activity. That. Was. Constantly. Being. Advertised. [quote]Thirty bucks for nine months of new stuff. What you get for thirty dollars has been well documented. New modes like forge, new raids every three months, etc... You played the first mission, that is it. If you are going to whine about content for money you should at least play all of it first.[/quote] There is no first mission. And I'm not paying for this over the course of nine months. I'm paying for this now. So I'm evaluating what I have [i]now.[/i] And by golly, look! An activity that is too high light for me to actually have fun in! This is so awesome, I'm impressed. Sigh. [quote]Terrible based on what? You played one story mission out nine months of additions. Get some perspective. A raid every three months alone is worth $10.[/quote] ...there is no story mission. You keep trying to drive home this "nine months of additions." Yeah, let's talk about that when we get them. But for now, we are focusing on the most recent release, okay? [quote]It will be difficult for a week. Probably less if one has multiple characters.[/quote] You're right. It's pretty cool Bungie released an activity all by itself that most players can't beat for a week. [quote]The raid comes out Friday. You are having a hissy fit because you will have to play other parts of the game for a few days.[/quote] Yeah, I'm having a hissy fit because this execution was terrible. You don't release an activity that is 30 light levels above what used to be max without any time to prepare. Now I have to play the game and ignore the expansion and the activity in it's entirety and do my milestones like black armory hasn't dropped yet. [quote]Not fair? How so? Everyone is in the same boat, and you can play the forges your just not good enough to beat them at the your power delta. That will probably last a couple days.[/quote] My -blam!-ing head hurts.

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  • The execution was pretty wack, but at this point I'm used to it. Bungie is a monkey paw, we get what we ask for, but with a weird or unforseen consequence attached. I've been saying it for years. I do agree that this is bad because there was absolutely no way to prep for this, if the first forge was say 580-600 I don't think we would see as many problems. I like Last Wish and playing the game in general, so it doesn't bother me all to much that I'm going to have to grind out old stuff, but I won't discount the opinion of those who think that it should have dropped at a lower power level so we cam experience it. Just because I'm not bothered doesn't mean others aren't allowed to be outraged. This was easily avoidable, and hopefully Bungie can do something to fix it with some sort of hotfix.

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  • lol you had a great answer for everyone one of the OPs stuff. Nice work!

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