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12/5/2018 3:02:45 AM
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WHY THE -blam!- IS NO ON TALKING ABOUT THIS??????

When we first enter the Black Armoury and meet Ada she tells us that this place is not meant for Guardians. Now hold on just a damn second, if the Black Armoury is not meant to be visited by guardians, then why the frick is it located in the -blam!-ing tower, literally the place where guardians gather. Secondly, how the -blam!- does a golden age armory exist in the -blam!-ing tower, and we guardians, you know, the ones who own the the tower, not know about this? Like it's literally located a 2 min walk away from the Vanguard Commanders.... How the hell does Spider know about this place in the tower and we don't? How?......
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  • Because Bungie doesn’t put any effort to in-game world building

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    • See how many dead ends that seemingly lead to somewhere are in the tower. Sad thing is there will be a lot more of this . Oh here’s Xur’s other 8 members of the nine scattered throughout the tower. Bungee , oh we just thought of it.

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      • I know the whole thing is stupid

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      • Because we've all given up trying to get bungie to write a decent story that actually made some sense. :/

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      • The absurdity of this blew my mind. How did this get a green light? Why was this place not in some bunker in Old Chicago, or the Manhattan Nuclear Zone? This seems to be another case of someone writing, and not having any clue/care of the lore.

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      • We didn't know bout Ada being downstairs & the Forge is in a Cabal tunnel? Ahm.. yeah.. no.

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      • Edited by Sonic Rose: 12/5/2018 10:55:19 PM
        Guardians built the entire wall so yeah how is a Golden Age armory in a place that was built after the collapse

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        • Technically, were not in the "tower" anymore. We occupy a space in the city wall. Next time you spawn in, walk forward a few paces and look way up to the left. You'll see the old tower destroyed. Not important, but I thought it was cool when I finally noticed a while back.

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          • Why do we have to walk so far (even with fast travel) to get to Ada, they should have moved her/it over to where Cayde was, it's lonely for the other chick to be seperated from the team.

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          • Edited by RaulShcalke07: 12/6/2018 2:32:49 AM
            lmao, Im thinking the same thing this morning. It just not feels right, she hate Guardians, but she set up the shop in their HQ.. lmao... Bungie should create new map in EDZ orrrrrr why not use the farm? Its a wasted map imo, literally no use after Red War Campaign

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          • Also, how is it possible these armories have been in production - or at least around - for roughly 16 centuries but we’ve never come across the tech in the wild and thought to ourselves, hey, this is golden age tech but without the wear and tear! Also, how did the forges stay intact all that time in the wild, never once pilfered by the fallen, who are scavengers extraordinaire? Also, if the Odrerir exotic ship lore is to be believed, why haven’t these weapons been in use all this time? Even if Ada hates Guardians, isn’t the BA’s mission to protect [i]humanity[/i]? Lucy has a lot of ‘splainin to do!

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            • We aren't in the tower, we are on a part of the wall. The Drifter, an illegal dark and light user, harboring Taken, is standing in a closet right behind ikora.

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              • The only thing I can think of, is that Zavala and Ikora knew about the black armory, but respected Adas choice to not involve guardians. Especially since it seems she's been around since the first Risen and Warlords were still around. I'm assuming she also arms the guards and citizens of the tower and city. But since we had to move from our tower, well we got a bit closer to her, and spider likes to stick hims arms in others business

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                • Sometimes the best place to hide something is right under someone's nose.

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                  • Well techancally the armory is adjacent to the real tower that got you know blown up by garry. So techancally we are using a part of the wall as a tower and a shitty one at that so if anything the armory is located inside the wall.

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                  • Feel like it was all kinda self-explanatory with Spider's comment "allow me to pull the vast curtain of things "Guardians don't know" back an inch."

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                    • I find it interesting that all the weapons in that Armory was created to kill “us”; humanity literally created a countermeasure in the event they would be pitted against us.

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                    • I was wondering this as well. The only way I see the vanguard not knowing about this is that this base we are in right now isn't actually our tower but a temporary base. But then again how did we not know about the forge? It's like we weren't patroling the edz for an entire year.

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                    • 1. The armory doesn't exist in the tower. It exists on the wall. 2. Do you have any idea how vast the Wall is and how many levels it has? 3. Golden Age cloaking tech

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                      • The entire time I was walking down to ada for the first time I was thinking exactly this. What the hell bungo!

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                      • The current social space is on some random stretch of wall now. It wasnt, is not, the tower. So ada was hidden from the guardians.

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                        • Edited by Risky Man: 12/5/2018 8:07:26 PM
                          the tower was blown up at the beginning of the red war. We are currently on the wall in a Makeshift HQ until the tower is rebuilt. i highly doubt many guardians were skulking around down here before the red war. and the armory has been closed hence Ada needing our help to reopen the forges.

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                          • Edited by STARWoLF00: 12/5/2018 8:54:24 PM
                            She says that this armory existed before the city was founded. That section of the “tower” actually has ruins from previous structures inside of it. The traveler didn’t just land in an empty Forrest..... As for your second point it was cloaked. She also stated that others knew of the black armor. Specifically more privileged individuals. She only has a bad history with guardians. What you should be talking about is how ada could be the person the Queen was waiting for a few weeks ago. Mara said that her next guest finds the presence of guardians offensive.

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                          • They never build any of their content in a CONTEXT in relation to anything else. There is no story, just a chain of events. So the armory doesn’t have to make sense, it just has to be there so you can get a quest step and bounties. Bungie’s design philosophy has no room for WHY, only HOW. Bungie never read Nietzsche apparently.

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                          • Edited by GeneJumper: 12/5/2018 8:56:27 PM
                            We moved there after the Red War when our old tower was destroyed, black armoury already there before we moved into our new digs, hidden behind a wall.

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                          • Because the first rule of Black Armory is you don't talk about Black Armory...

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