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Edited by BraveCole: 12/5/2018 7:39:23 AM
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Fanboys defenses, and why this shit is garbage and inexcusable.

Defense #1: "[i]It's only been out for seven hours. Why are you angry that you have to level up? It's like that every DLC."[/i] Yes, it's been out for seven hours, and the only DLC related thing I've done is kill powerful enemies with power weapons for quest steps. The main meat of the DLC, which is the forge, requires a power level that will take at least another week or two of milestones to even comfortably participate in. I don't want to do the same shit I've been doing for the past 2 months to play the new content. Just imagine if the first story mission of forsaken launched at level 50 with a 500 recommended light. I came into this update thinking I was going to grind the forge and get some new gear. Turns out, I have to grind old shit still just to even [i]consider[/i] grinding the forge. Defense #2: [i]"The annual pass was only 30 dollars, that means each update was roughly 10 dollars each. What did you expect?"[/i] See, I didn't pay 10 dollars for black armory. I paid [b][i][u]THIRTY.[/u][/i][/b] YOU HAVE TO PAY 30 DOLLARS OUT OF THE GATE TO PLAY BLACK ARMORY. AND THIS IS WHAT WE GET FOR PAYING THIRTY DOLLARS. THEY ARE NOT SOLD SEPERATELY. My friend, who got the DLC this morning, dropped THIRTY DOLLARS to play this wack ass update. There is NO EXCUSE. Defense #3 [i]"This isn't an expansion, though. Don't treat it like one."[/i] Yes, the -blam!- it is an expansion. You have to pay money for additional content that expands the game for you and adds new activities. That is DLC. It is an [i]expansion.[/i] A terrible one. Defense #4 [i]"It's just the first day. More is coming later on."[/i] More content [i]later,[/i] doesn't excuse what we have [i]now.[/i] What we have [i]now,[/i] is an activity that barely anyone is able to complete because for some odd reason, they wanted to set the light level to 15 above what the max was [i][b]yesterday.[/b][/i] By the time the raid and the second forge come out, most of us will just be nearing the point where we can actually beat the [i]first[/i] damn forge. If I drop 30 dollars on something, I expect to be able to play the content it brings. I can't do Black Armory Forges, which was the main -blam!-ing selling point. I'm not high enough yet. I have to keep running the same milestone hamster wheel that I've been running since last expansion until I am. That isn't good. That isn't fair. The verdict is: If you haven't bought the annual pass, then DO NOT BUY IT UNTIL: *They lower the light requirements of the forge and allow people to start playing and grinding what they just -blam!-ing paid for. *They sell the expansions separately for 10 dollars. *Until every content rollout up til March has released. This literally feels like a free update with a 30 dollar coat on. Keep in mind, this cost more than Rise of Iron from D1. Let that sink in. This is unacceptable. I don't think Destiny has ever put this much of a bad taste in my mouth.
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  • The best way to buy Destiny still remains when you can get he entire collection on sale for $20. Otherwise you’re just buying a 2-3 year beta.

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    • they should have made the first forge event a 580 starting recommended power level, and increase in increments of 5 power levels for the next few enemies with the boss at a 610. This way even a 600 can feel like its doable and its still difficult.

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      • Edited by vmondude: 12/5/2018 6:07:06 PM
        Yeah people say “it’s only been a day” but these point is, that it’s been a whole year of the constant mistakes! Over and over! 5 years if you include Destiny 1 in the mix but compared to D2, D1 looks like a smooth problem free ride! Don’t they say doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result is the definition of insanity? Then BungIe you truly are NUTS 🥜

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      • i absolute agree with you, the man with these idiotic decisions at Bungie/Activision should be fired immediately.

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      • Edited by Snowparry: 12/5/2018 8:12:51 PM
        Here’s the issue; you make it seem like it’s currently impossible. It’s not. People have beaten it at power level 600. If you’re not good enough, just wait until your power increases. That’s what everyone does with every content in this game. Raids, the dungeons, nightfalls, etc. It’s nothing new. The best players will get the gear the earliest. Everyone else will wait. That’s how it’s always been. Why is this so different?

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        • They havent removed your account yet..?

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          • The Annual Pass was made for the fanboys.....when the rest of you whiners catch up you'll do just fine.

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          • https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/47465 What did Bungie not deliver?

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            • I can’t understand people like you man. D2 vanilla was made for your mindset and it killed Destiny for everyone. You want hand outs, you want max power day 1. WORK for it you ungrateful and jaded millennial. Sometimes you don’t get a participation trophy. Just because mommy and daddy handed you everything your entire life doesn’t mean you get to cry like a bitch when someone tells you no. Put in the time Put in the work Enjoy the reward

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              • Cry more. Had the boss at 1/2 health as a 604. We should be able to clear it at 610. You would be crying about it being too casual if you could just walk through the expansion.

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              • Calm down the developers told us we would have to grind to do the forges we knew that if you didn’t like that you didn’t have to buy it that simple.

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                • Sorry that they have to timegate things otherwise you guys would just grind it all nonstop then complain about it being stale

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                • How about the fact that plenty of people beat it at 600-605 power? Maybe you just suck.

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                • Bump

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                • Nailed it.

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                • Dude, the forge is able to be completed at 600. I was 602 and had beaten and done the weekly. Why is everyone claiming they need to grind more to do it?

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                  • At least make each level grant powerful gear, even if it’s just one and it’s capped after a certain number, but for -blam!-s sake. Make the dlc playable at launch. I’ve been in the “endgame” for months. Increasing the power cap shouldn’t change what is endgame when you don’t market BA as an expansion.

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                  • I find it incredibly ironic that to complete the “quest,” I wound up grinding EP (a horde mode) just to get access to a “NEW” horde mode that I still can’t finish because the old horde mode doesn’t drop high enough gear to matter. Even worse, I had to do / FULL EP runs, 2 heroic public events (in addition to the 2 that I already completed as part of EP), AND the friggin Heroic Mars story mission just to finish the flash point. ...for a piece of 602 gear. The only “new” gear I managed to snag with this update were the “radiant shards.” Wow. That was REALLY imaginative Bungie. Way to put out something new and unique.

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                    • You forgot the "ItS eNd GaMe CoNtEnT!?!? Reeeeeeeeeee"

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                    • Edited by Dogcowmd: 12/5/2018 7:46:36 PM
                      [quote]I can't do Black Armory Forges, which was the main -blam!-ing selling point. I'm not high enough yet. [/quote] Maybe that’s it! Maybe I don’t like this DLC because I’m not high enough yet! That’s gotta be it— I’m gonna come back and try it again after I’m high(er)!! 🚬 🚬 😎

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                    • Howdy! Just want to share my thoughts on your defenses. Take it with a grain of salt as I have gotten D2 and Forsaken recently, and I’m still grinding to get to 600 (I’m 540ish atm) Defense 1: This is probably the stance of yours I agree the most with. I’m not too upset however, because this content expands our options for endgame gear. This doesn’t mean that we aren’t going to not be doing activities which we have already been doing. This is Forsaken’s annual pass, all Forsaken activities are (and should) still be viable activities to gain powerful gear from. With that being said, if Bungie are going to release new content, they should at least release it at a reasonable light level (600 IMO) so people can participate in it from the get go. These activities should be challenging due to their mechanics and amounts of enemies, not because of light level. Defense 2: I really don’t get your argument here. Yes, you are dropping $30 for black armory, but also for Joker’s Wild AND for Penumbra. They are not being sold individually for $30, it’s $30 for everything. And if they were, would that really change anything? Defense 3: Technically this is an expansion, however in Bungo terms this is not. They view it as something that REALLY overhauls the story and activities. Which now that I think about it, doesn’t the pass do that? Hmm...I’ll probably have to think more about this later. Come back for an edit or share your thoughts and I will reply to it. Defense 4: This one seems redundant as you mention this in Defense 1. But again, I agree with this even though I’m not as upset over it.

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                      • They should have enabled the power increase for the week before it.

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                      • The corporate shillery is insane!

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                      • it's meant to be a grind if you don't like it don't play at all

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                      • What's annoying me is the loot I'm getting is dropping below or at my level. So if im 600 I only get 601 gear for the portion of the milestone. I gotta hope to rng I get good prime engrams..and blind well is so dead all of a sudden. 4 times I went there. There was no one. Today I go again and silence. Also who's the idiot that thought that the first forge should be nearly impossible?!

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                        • #1 You keep logging in to play though?

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