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Edited by Tidal4ce: 8/31/2018 6:05:26 PM
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An open letter regarding crucible bans/restrictions.

"Effective September 4, 2018, we will apply more restrictions and bans to player accounts that benefitted from opponent disconnects at a highly abnormal frequency throughout Season 3 with our improved detection methods. This will include “voluntary” disconnects when players are repeatedly matching against the same opponents." Bungie, this is a game populated by teenagers, young adults, and frustrated middle aged men/women. Punishing anyone for this whilst making no attempts to interfere, object, declare, warn or otherwise reprimand individuals as it was GOING ON but secretly monitoring the situation? Who exactly are you protecting here? I never cheesed, I never arranged to fix matches, but y'know what, there was this one time where a guy begged me for his seventh win. We'd spent two or three weekends together grinding trials. By fluke a week later we got into the same match. My team was good, but we'd been getting our butts kicked so often that we had no wins. I offered to let him take the seventh match. Rather than throwing 5 rounds in a row we went to orbit. We felt good, even proud of taking the high road cause hey, it was just a game. How is that situation any different than a bunch of people exploiting your system to socially agree to do something much similar? People were frustrated, upset, insulted, degraded, teased, taunted, and peer-pressured into doing this. If you think this isn't the case you, my friend, are wrong. I think you need to have interrupted, intervened or otherwise made contact with individuals while it was going on. You needed to do more, at the time to prevent the spread of this instead of punishing people after the fact. I could not give a crap if someone is top crucible player because of this. Going forward, yes, please ban, suspend, disrupt and punish people but not retro-actively! Some people are going to slip through the cracks. Some people are going to be incorrectly identified. All because of ONE weapon. So those who got away with it might do it again, those who didn't regretfully blacklisted for something they took as a casual prank. You think professional streamers cheesed it? You better believe they did. This issue stretches to your culture, your social spaces, and a lack of prevention. I blame Bungie for this mess and they are incorrectly identifying themselves are judge, jury and executioner. They are not the victim and I am not the victim. The people who got sucked into the culture of it got victimized. For crying out loud one of the largest PC/LFG Discord's with something like 50,000 people had a dedicated cheese LFG. The culture of weapon attainment stretches back to D1, and the level of social ridicule people endured, social pressure, and elitism is appalling by all accounts. I mean the greater question is: How can carries free/paid ever be deemed an offense worth a banning? Should we avoid grouping together for fear that the repercussions will be delayed and so heartbreaking I should avoid participating in any social event? If someone is hacking, or DDoS attacking shouldn't that be more important? Great way to bring it all out into the open, I believe this resembles entrapment and not a crime. I really mean it. This is intended as an open letter, and I hope that you (reader) will take the opportunity to share your thoughts on the situation. This is a polarizing conversation, and I really can't stress enough the type of harm Bungie might be doing to the community by taking this after-the-fact approach. Thank you for your time. -Tidal4ce

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  • Edited by Zenith: 9/2/2018 11:44:48 PM
    I also find it extremely seedy that Bungie is going to (finally, and out of the blue) punish people for something that's been happening since Y1D1. Whether you cheesed or not, everyone knew it was something Bungie let tens of thousands of people get away with for almost half a decade. This is precisely the reason that people who've never done it before agreed to it. Same thing with so-called Titan skating. Bungie, your priority here should be DDoSers: people that actually threaten the integrity of your game, something that is actually dangerous to expose your consumers to, that you have done very little to protect them from. Bungie, if you're going to punish people who cheesed on their own accounts, then you should also punish those who paid for account recoveries. Or any other paid service for this game. That IS in the ToS, and was before 2 weeks ago. Where is your actual priority? Is it to shut up a bunch of holier-than-thou gamers who want to pretend like they've walked a straight and narrow path their whole life and take this as an opportunity to look down on other people? Not a single person on this thread or anywhere else is innocent of never taking a shortcut in life. Not one. However, Bungie, you've singlehandedly given them a soapbox to stand on and alienated a huge portion of your customer base, notably the portion who actually sticks around and keeps playing even when your content dies. The loyal collectors. Take away the Redrix. Temporarily lock people out of the Competitive playlist. Monitor future matches and punish people who are obviously cheesing matches. Sure. That's reasonable. Anything more than that for people who simply cheesed glory and did not DDoS other players is absurd. The punishment should always fit the crime.

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