I have a job and a wife and a son and another on the way and friends that I golf with and friends that I shoot pool with and friends I play Destiny with and I'm not having any trouble with the grind, just doing it smart.
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Not all of us can play Destiny whilst shooting pool.
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git gud.... lol jk
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All I am saying is they put way too much of the easy grind (strikes, daily missions, lost sector bounties, a crucible match where I am trying to get kills a certain way, doing repetitive blind Wells, getting planetary materials) into the game which keeps people away from the actual interesting content. No one wants to spend hours and hours and hours of easy grind just to get to do the events in which we actually want to do. When I want a challenge from prestige raids, I get frustrated when I have to do content a 12 year can do over and over.
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Gonna be tough for you to raid at 531 light. Sorry bud, lfg gonna be tough on you.
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I'll get there in due time, just gotta grind for hours this weekend (you can hear my excitement) and I got a clan I can raid with at any time and with 300+ raid clears people don't have a problem bringing me in on lfg because I can easily play my role.
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Well that makes two of us. I have a group of 15 guys that I have been raiding with since VoG. Most of us quit D2 y1 b/c it was casual trash. But we're all back and ready to raid this weekend. hanging out with those guys doing different activities ('grinding') is what makes the game fun. Join up with some of your 1337 clan friends and have some fun.
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Casual trash in a bad light, yet grinding in a good light? I'm sorry I keep replying to your posts, but you're attempts at a lofty stance is misguided. Playing smart and grinding are conflicted in nature. Casual trash and grinding is synonymous. As to the social aspect, I wholeheartedly agree. I do enjoy doing a myriad of activities each day as opposed to receiving a login bonus and playing a different game.
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No need to apologize, discussion is what we're here for. But there is definitely such a thing as grinding smart. I enjoy working towards something and becoming more powerful over time, but I also enjoy finding the most efficient way to do so. I don't have 12 hours each day to play (like the 18 people who beat the raid the first weekend). If I did I probably would. Anyway, what I mean is, you can certainly get to max light only by playing crucible, it's just going to take you a long time. You can also get to max light and only ever use the same set of armor and weapons because you infuse everything all the time, it's just going to take you a longer time. I like the feeling of sacrificing short term to more quickly achieve my long term goals - and I believe that's the way most classical MMO grinding types feel. It's all about the payoff at the end, and then the freedom to explore once you get there. Destiny 1 was great for that. The first few months were all about getting max light from the raid. Then the months after that were all about enjoying it in the crucible, and experimenting with some different weapons, and helping newbies get through the raid, too (and it's easier because you are now stronger). That's the Destiny experience I enjoyed - NOT D2y1 where everyone was max light public events after 2 weeks and the raid was utterly pointless.
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Oh, yea that I agree with. I dont mind the grind for a weapon that has that perfect combination (I hate the term godroll since not everyone wants the same thing ie- kill clip sucks but that's a different conversation) to make quality of life improvements. There most definitely is a length of time associated with min maxing versus shortcutting max light, such as not worrying about armor perks, or finding that right combination to make you your most efficient.
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You have 10 raid clears. Barely even over 100 games in the crucible.....I have close to 300 raid clears and over 500 games in the crucible. You just get on and do the minimum to raise you light level and nothing else. Obviously this game hasnt been something you enjoyed and just because you can get on, run through easy story missions, easy strikes, easy public events and all the easy stuff in the game doesn't mean you are doing anything right. The only thing your time has shown is light level and if you defend that as being something to showcase then you are wrong. I can get on all day and farm those easy events, run through the story missions which take forever for 3 characters and repetitive and farm materials but who in the hell enjoys that? That's not what the game should be about. Doing the most boring and repetitive activities just to be able to do the fun stuff takes way too much time and if you get on just to do that and take all that time away from family to say, "Well my light level is this high, but that's about all I really do is grind stuff for light level," then that's not what this game should be about.
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While you're at it you can check my D1 stats to see how much I play, try 2500 crucible matches and plenty of raid clears. And those don't even count the 10s of characters I created and deleted running 5-6 raids per week during VoG. (Of course, that was before the family).
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I had to give up on D1 when I grinded 13 straight hours trying to get a treasure key and didn't get a single one. Kinda makes someone say F it and do something else.
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It's not my fault you are a moron. What are you even doing if you're not doing the weekly challenges? I'm having a great time doing the plethora of activities that they've offered to us to get powerful gear.