Josh Hamrick provided additional details for how Sleeper will be tuned:
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As mentioned yesterday, our goal for Sleeper is to make it AN (awesome) option but not the only option. At this time we are committed to retaining Sleeper’s full power and will be tweaking its ease of use instead by reducing its generous Aim Assist values.
This means Sleeper will remain just as effective in PvE while requiring slightly more skill to use in PvP. Assuming you’re good enough to land your shots, you’ll see no difference in behavior.
We don’t expect drastic behaviorial differences from this change but we also don’t feel it’s that far off. We’d rather ease in tweaks like these.
We can always push on it more in the future if it’s still deemed necessary
Thank you.
❤️ Sandbox[/quote]
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Why would that ruin the game? Getting a sleeper via quest is part of the game anyway so if you don't have a sleeper then what's really stopping you from getting it?
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I have it, but I refuse to use the meta. The whole "if you can't beat em join em" mentality is why things get nerfed. Find a more unique weapon to use!
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I use other meta also but due to the pve element and hundreds of adds trying to kill you, sleeper is a good option. My philosophy with meta is that if enough people use it, someone will try to find a better weapon. I have used at least 2 more scrub friendly heavies to kill invaders and I love them. I just love sleeper more.
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You had me, then you lost me. Put game in more capable hands than bungie?👍 Give everyone sleeper?👎🏿, that sounds like a dumpster fire waiting to happen.
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Everyone can have sleeper anyway. It's not a RNG it's a quest in warmind. In theory, Bungie cannot stop anyone from having sleeper. Just do the quest if you need sleeper.
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Na, I prefer suros, if you can land crit shots, that thing is deadly.
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Ah suros, I have so many sweet memories of that gun from D1 glory years. Absolute gem!
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Edited by TitanMasterOG: 9/21/2018 5:27:30 AMI don't mind sleeper but i think the player tracking gotta go that shit not in trials of the nine which is competitive as gambit accept gambit has some ugly armor. Plus when i join gambit matches it's just me an one other person if its 7/8 the matchmaking shouldn't load the teams into the match. If you guy's can put a new emote in eververse which there is but in boundle im sure you can improve them matchmaking settings.
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Add armor transmogs now. You guys added like 7 sets of armor just to make all the previous armor irrelevant. When you have a game mechanic like infusion, there is really no need to make old gear useless. Please... transmog or add perks to the old armors... solstice and trials for nothing....
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Interesting. Could be worse, I suppose, they could triple the time to charge or something ridiculous like that. Bungie, I’m proud. You’re not swinging the banhammer as hard this time.
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Darci > Scrubber Stimulant
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and that from an Edge Transit... how can you sleep !
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Did you really select your own reply as the best answer? Fuçk, extreme narcissism [b][i][u]IS[/u][/i][/b] a trait bungie looks for.
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Dude, here’s a snickers.
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Edited by US Reaper x: 9/21/2018 3:26:36 AMQuestion - aim assist values total or only aim assist values in pvp combat?
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Yeah that’s not really gonna fix anything
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Yes it is because if you didn’t realize people will eventually gain new gear to replace sleeper.
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This is a excellent way to handle this, while I didn't feel it needed a nerf specifically for Gambit, I'm happy to hear it's retaining it's awesomeness for PVE. Thank you!
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What a goddamn joke you're nerfing Sleeper before shotguns that are blatantly overpowered.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, shotguns are not op, the maps are just designed very poorly to cater to shotgun rushers.
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I dont really mind the rushers they're at least playing the game. The campers are insanely annoying, though.
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That depends on how you define camping. If you mean sitting in a corner with a shotgun all game then I agree. If you mean holding a position or a shooting lane for map domination, then I would say that is the most strategic way to play.
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What he is saying is you need to have some gun skills to use it now. If you dont have skills or dont want to get skilled then you have no place in any pvp game mode anyways.
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It’s not really a nerf. If you think this is a nerf you don’t know what nerf is
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That’s the point. They didn’t want to nerf it.