Josh Hamrick provided additional details for how Sleeper will be tuned:
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As mentioned yesterday, our goal for Sleeper is to make it AN (awesome) option but not the only option. At this time we are committed to retaining Sleeper’s full power and will be tweaking its ease of use instead by reducing its generous Aim Assist values.
This means Sleeper will remain just as effective in PvE while requiring slightly more skill to use in PvP. Assuming you’re good enough to land your shots, you’ll see no difference in behavior.
We don’t expect drastic behaviorial differences from this change but we also don’t feel it’s that far off. We’d rather ease in tweaks like these.
We can always push on it more in the future if it’s still deemed necessary
Thank you.
❤️ Sandbox[/quote]
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Better solution just remove Gambit.
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Yeah fine, now tell me where to find that seed of light that doesn’t involve me playing your craptastic raid.
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I’m a bit befuddled with the decision as it is completely appropriate. Thank you guys for thinking it through before killing the Sleeper, it’s greatly appreciated.
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Edited by SILLABYSS: 9/19/2018 12:51:57 AMSo what I am hearing is that the biggest babies in this game are crucible and Gambit based - the first nerf of the year comes with Gambit - the only game mode where you can get banned for leaving a ridiculously imbalanced and pointless match... Bungie....what on earth are you guys doing? If your going to keep this garbage in the game, give us separate matchmaking for groups and solos...more have asked for that than another nerf... At least the PVE isn't going to be impacted this time - until it does...
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Bro this nerf could have been a hell of a lot worse. Obviously Bungie has learned their lesson. Chill and stop being so toxic.
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Still a nerf...still in crucible...not toxic...most of us PVE players are fed up with the broken PVP in this game, and being forced to play this garbage to get exotics....there are WAY bigger issues in PVP than an overpowered Sleeper...and there are way bigger issues in PVE - like, I dunno, being able to cheese the raid chests? Try fixing that first...
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Honestly, most use Sleeper against bosses and mini bosses. And most times we aim for the Crib spot. Do we really care about AA ?? In Gambit I use Tracking Rocket with Cluster... Multi kills.
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[quote]Still a nerf...still in crucible...not toxic...most of us PVE players are fed up with the broken PVP in this game, and being forced to play this garbage to get exotics....there are WAY bigger issues in PVP than an overpowered Sleeper...and there are way bigger issues in PVE - like, I dunno, being able to cheese the raid chests? Try fixing that first...[/quote] Absolutely. I quit Iron Banner after three matches because of the absolute steaming piece of garbage that it became. Light level enabled? Shotguns? -Blam!-ing kills out of no where? Instant squad match ups? Screw it, I'll play something else.
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First 4 matches were a group of Solos (myself included) and all 510 and under vs a 5-6 Team of Clan members all 535+. How is that even fair. Normally with the LL disabled, it's fine.. but talk about not having a good time. Two of the matches I was dropped in to a game 22-80...
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Doesn't help that there is a shotgun contest to get an exotic...so there's that...
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[quote]Still a nerf...still in crucible...not toxic...most of us PVE players are fed up with the broken PVP in this game, and being forced to play this garbage to get exotics....there are WAY bigger issues in PVP than an overpowered Sleeper...and there are way bigger issues in PVE - like, I dunno, being able to cheese the raid chests? Try fixing that first...[/quote] Absolutely. I quit Iron Banner after three matches because of the absolute steaming piece of garbage that it became. Light level enabled? Shotguns? -Blam!-ing kills out of no where? Instant squad match ups? Screw it, I'll play something else.
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Amazing job guys, good going sandbox team! Keep up the good work!
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[quote]I can't believe what I'm seeing! [/quote] This seems excellent.
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Bungie back in D1 would have nerfed Sleeper Simulant into the ground; and then nerfed ALL Linear Fusion rifles for good measure. Glad they're deciding to use a scalpel in this scenario instead of breaking out the big ol' nerf hammer like before.
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This does two things: 1) Nerfs the gun in the area it needed - drastic ease of use. 2) Exposes the frauds who are now going to whine AFTER this nerf because "Sleeper sucks now" when, in all actuality, they just can't aim. Slick move Bungo. Crazy appropriate.
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Perfect
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Awsome
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Thank you for keeping the power intact. Also thank you for making the change for PvP ONLY. Please don’t nerf the fun!! This game finally feels fun to play.