I have a buddy/clanmate at .67kd. Bottom 8% of the entire D2 population. I don't know what other players are doing wrong... but he's playing better, winning more often, and having more fun since SBMM was removed. Even had his best D2 match ever with 24 kills a few days ago. He has told our clan numerous times that he's loving it and doesn't want it to change.

Ive played QP for the last few days and I have not seen more than 2 lop sided matches. I [i]have[/i] seen very terrible players.. Its kind of sad. But its not usually their fault. They use the wrong gun, wrong jump, huge tv with lots of input lag that they dont even know about, dont descope to view the radar, and more. Some of these are just bad habits you get when you never make a friend who is already good at crucible, or you dont try to change tactics after TrueVanny has told you 1000 times over in every video. I feel bad for them. [spoiler]but i have clipped at least 2 matches in the last 3 days because the playz!! Oh man....[/spoiler]

some people like it, some people hate it, but to say we know about a bug but aren't going to do anything about it right now is ridiculous. quick play should be prioritized to be 70% connection based and 30% skill based. competitive should be prioritized to be 45% connection based and 55% skill based. i know this is a broad generalization for how i feel the match making should work but you get the idea.

Normally I try to upvote you and defend your statements when other people downvote you or give you unnecessary crap. It's like pissing on a forest fire, but I do try. But this is basically: "People are getting humiliated in PvP. Sorry about that, but we're not doing anything about it right now." Since I'm one of the less proficient PvP players in the game, and therefore am regularly the victim of this "issue" rather than the beneficiary, you'll forgive me if I don't charge to your aid this time.

What laziness is this? "Our plan is to not do anything in hopes you'll just deal with it, in total disregard of community feedback over the past year." You know, if you had dedicated servers like the rest of the modern world, you wouldn't have 98% of the PvP problems you aren't doing anything about.

OMG quickplay is sssooooooo fun right now

I'm enjoying it

SBMM has 5 issues 1. Longer search times, often annoying 2. Can't play with higher/lower skilled friends unless you and they don't care about stats 3. Removes all incentive to improve, why progress when you face the same level regardless of weather you started trying harder or not 4. Increases lag as connection is no longer the primary engine 5. Ends up teaching newer guardians the wrong tricks, say they start from bottom barrel, they use anything since anything works vs bottom barrel enemies, get that playstyle ingrained and end up being unable to easily swap to what's actually good later when they end up in mid tier games. Finally all SBMM does to high skill players is make each game into a tourney, no one wants to play tourneys every day, there is absolutely no reason a player should be rewarded for being bad by not having to match anyone who's skill surpasses thier own, CBMM will 90% give you a match neither team stomps the other but is fair, that 1 in 20 game you match a stacked team and lose badly [u]is not a big deal[/u] What's [i]not[/i] cool is having a high skill player search and give him heavy handicaps for teammates facing decent competition and expect him to win. Enough forcing the 50% win/loss, CBMM is good, last time they sneakily added SBMM they had riots here for months before being forced to cave and swap it back, we don't need or want a repeat of that abysmal era. Period. You search and match everyone, sometimes it's close, sometimes you wreck and sometimes you get wrecked, this notion of asking for protection from higher skilled players who worked to improve while you likely didn't seems...pathetic to me to be honest, didn't want to use such a harsh term but it's the only one that fits [spoiler]Oh and if you reply with "You just want to pubstomp" I guess the flip side is you are too weak to stand up to that 1 in 20 game where you match a higher % player and lose? You need bungies protection to stop the mean sweaties from killing you once every 5 hours? So "You just want to avoid better players" back at you.[/spoiler] Qp is perfect as is and should not be touched besides for bigger maps meant for 6vs6 Also don't forget players who make alts just for montage clips, those who wish to pubstomp will always find a way. If ranked should be SBMM or not is a different discussion, D2 quickplay is comparable to H3s social playlist, something that shouldn't be tourney like games each time you play.

Fix it and bring back how it was. You all think that you are Gods stumping people who just want to get their milestones done. No you are just asswipes who boast like the hunters who murder a giraffe from 500 yards, defenceless, thinking you are it. Go and sweat your own kind. I am bad, yes, and don’t plan to get good. PVP is the cancer that will destroy this game!!!!

The posts saying we're getting stomped every game or those stomping just stomp all the time are wrong. It's random. I've been stomping much of last week, went in tonight had to sweat to do okay. It's totally random

>Blueberries "It's unfair to have us match against better players because we refuse to get better at the game and everyone should be forced to play against similar players at all times because I am upset that I get stomped" >Also blueberries "Haha yeah you neck beards should be forced to play sweaty games at all times throughout destiny 2's lifespan because I deserve to have a good time in my comfort zone. Also the name quick play doesn't mean anything. We need SBMM everywhere we are because we all need to have a fair shot at winning despite not putting in the effort others do" Inb4 equating matches with bad players as having the same objective intensity as a match filled with tryhards. Edit 1: The bad players have confirmed what I just said. Attempting to pathologize CBMM for quick play in a video game. This is what they do. These poorly coordinated individuals want to install their cyber egalitarianism into this games pvp. Don't be like them. You can be better with practice. So please practice and work hard for everything, to include everything irl. If you feel like a bad player, just know you can make a difference in your skill. Only you can hold you back.