QP is more toxic than usual. While I seem to be doing about the same as before, there are a LOT more lopsided matches, and since I'm on the losing team 75% of the time now, the game isn't fun anymore. Losing a control match 150 to 69 isn't fun no matter how well you may do. Especially when I'm trying to get paradox amplifiers, which apparently you don't get when your team loses. BTW, the new meta is the old meta. Crimson, vigalence wing everywhere.

You don't need to be a Professor to predict the reaction to the removal of SBMM. Since it makes the game easier for the best players, of course they are happy. And of course, the average player that is getting stomped is pissed - and rightfully so. I also don't understand why someone would work towards being really good and competitive and then wish for easier matches and people to stomp. If you invest a lot of time to get good, you are asking to compete with the best. So please don't complain when the game matches you with fair opponents. Imagine Football clubs like Real Madrid or Manchester United investing hundreds of millions in their players and then complain when they are put up against similar skilled teams and not against your local hobby soccer team. Even though sometimes "Loosing" and "Fun" are not mutually exclusive, what definitely is mutually exclusive is "Fun" and "getting stomped". Contrary to common belief, you don't learn shit from getting your ass handed to you, because you are dead before you even realize what went wrong. The only way to learn how to get better is to player harder and harder and harder opponents as you improve yourself. Exactly what SBMM is for. Competitive is more intense and no substitute for QP with SBMM. In competitive, Radar is disabled so you need to rely on audio cues and your teams callouts. Plus, there is something on the line (your Glory points) that you are afraid to loose. I want every mode to include SBMM. Quickplay is just to play without the stress of maybe loosing something and Competitive is when I want to go Tryhard outside of Trials. SBMM is an absolute must have for any multiplayer game these days. If you just declare the majority or your playerbase as "Free to shot" you are digging your own grave, because those players will leave and try to find a more fair experience. In the end, only the hardcore sweats will be left playing eachother, exactly how it was with SBMM. But since the majority of your playerbase left, there is not way of fixing it. You have just doomed your game. Great work.

So basically it's now as salty as Trials competitive. There is really no place for low tier players, or people in thier 50's that have lost the hand eye coordination to go. I'm in my 50's and time has stated that git gud is just not possible like when I was a teen. Really liked quick play because I could hold my own, I know it was mostly against people just learning the game. Or old people like me. I know my place and what I can and can't do. But now I am getting creamed every match. But if the mass wants it to stay then let it stay. I will enjoy other parts of the game.

Bungie’s way of matchmaking- A team consisting of 5 to 6 decent players vs A team consisting of five really bad players and one player that is quite a bit better than almost everyone on the other team Decent player is tasked with balancing the match by going 3.0 while teammates are getting .5 wrecked Or at least it sure hell seems that way.

[quote]Our plan for the immediate future is to take no action [/quote] Bungie in a nutshell

As a guess at what your data will show, the people with 0.5kd in every match will stop playing entirely and every match will eventually get sweatier and sweatier as the cannon fodder quits...

This event is horrible. Really fckn bad

I like the new crucible. This is how it felt in year 1 of Destiny 1. Then they introduced sbmm and all of a sudden the casual playlists got sweaty. If I were Bungie, I wouldn’t use this forum as a point of reference either. All that remains is a bunch of salty guardians that do nothing but complain. No one can argue this point either, it’s fact. Best way for Bungie to review this situation is look at player population and win/loss ratios of players. If I were the director at Bungie, I would leave it as is. Social media runs the gaming industry now. If more players are streaming it and making content, then the more the game will grow.

You want my opinion, leave it as it is , if your getting stomped , take notes...

Since you are planning to do nothing about quickplay, which doesn’t matter anyway, hurry up & fix competitive by either implementing SBMM &/or removing point loss on defeat. The competitive playlist right now causes frustrations among most players & is unplayable, ruining the entire game experience, especially with a limited-time gun on the line. Our efforts from the beginning of the season are being put to waste due to terrible matchmaking algorithms that take a long time just to put you in a bad match where you are 90% likely to lose & waste 25+ minutes.