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7/12/2018 12:07:50 AM
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A Thought Just Entered my Brain

<So... we now know the Forsaken raid boss, the final one, is female. This has spurred a SHIT TON of debates and discussions over the past -blam!-ing day. Literally this shit happened like 2 or 3 days ago. Anyway, there are about 7 theories of note. 1. Eris Morn... this doesn't really make sense unless it correlates directly with theory 7. 2. An Ahamkara. With the revelation of a "pretty" female being the final boss, I don't think it'll be this one, plus I just hate the Ahamkara in general, but the dragon mention does raise some eyebrows. It could JUST be a metaphor but there's a possibility for something greater. 3. Quria, Blade Transform. I do not think this is it. While a commander of Savathun would make sense, there's too many great plotlines you could fit with Quria's presence. Especially if you follow the Dynasty plotline. 4. Savathun. Too early IMO. The buildup she's been getting is too great. 5. Xivu Arath. Not ENOUGH buildup. 6. A commander of Savathun. I'd say this is the most likely, but for the sake of this post let's analyze theory 7. 7. Mara Sov... let's get into this possibility. Mara was MIA after the Battle of Saturn that kickstarted the Taken War. Her being alive was accidentally confirmed by Bungie during one of their livestreams. Uldren Sov has been hearing voices in his head and is determined to find his sister. So determined that he allies himself with the Scorn in order to do so. Plus there's a bit of hatred for the Last City because he blames us for the death of the entire Awoken offensive fleet and his sister's situation. The voices are coming from the Dreaming City, which is phasing in and out of the Ascendant Realm. While this Realm could be maintained by the Mindbender, the increased Taken presence suggests otherwise. To make this post shorter and for me to actually get to the dark thought, Savathun. Savathun is totally the one pulling the strings here. But, with the Dreadnaught DLC coming next year, this seems a little early to some. Plus, I did mention that the final boss was called pretty. Could be a troll but whatever, moving forth. What about Mara as a boss? Doesn't make sense, right? Well, Savathun is a master manipulator. She infiltrated countless civilization's inner circles. This wouldn't be a surprise if she got to Mara. Let me just explain that Mara flat out disappeared after the Dreadnaught blast. This probably left her vulnerable and thanks to the Witch Queen's recent power boost after Oryx kicked the bucket... well... What if Savathun is controlling Mara. I don't mean like, Taking her, I just mean influencing her thoughts and actions. That way that familiar starlight feel stays with Uldren and urges him to do things. The voice would still be hers, but being controlled by Savathun. That way we get confirmation of our next DLC boss, a reason to hate her, and make some people happy by not putting her in too quickly. So that's part of the thought, here's the other half. Say, final story mission. We "defeated Uldren". He pulls a cheeky move and incapacitates us and books it. He knows where Mara is. We follow him closely, suspicious of if the Queen allows her brother's actions. There's a brief reunion when Mara suddenly tells him to get as far away from her as possible. Uldren is confused when Mara sighs, twitches, then kills him. We're surprised and she exits through a Taken portal. We beat her in the raid, she's clearly being forced to do all this. Dark narrative complete.>

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  • 2. Are you trying to say Ahamkara can’t be female or pretty? Are you ASSUMING AN AHAMKARA’S GENDER AND LOOKS???? Wow, Archival.

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      Bungie also recently said, “It would be cool to see a Scorn raid one day..” and after they (I guess) confirmed the raid boss to be a she I speculate the raid being focused on Savathûn due to the high Taken presence in the dreaming city.

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    • Look. If it is Mars Sov. We beat Oryx, who beat her easily. So why would she be a huge threat?

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      • It's omnigul, back to destroy your headset and ears.

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        • Edited by TotalDramaGamer: 7/14/2018 7:02:53 AM
          You're forgetting one additional powerful female presence in the Reef that could likely be a canidtate. 8. A Harbinger, the names of the witches under Mara's command, could be the raid boss. Powerful, female, securely in place of power, and could be infiltrated. A taken Harbinger. Let me talk it through. -- I feel like this narrative would be very well conceived, however, it feels like this would be a bit of a throw away of Mara Sov in and of itself. Yes, we're all very concerned about Savathun NOT being the raid boss because she has so much build up right now to not have a unmidigated DLC story arch. However, I feel like the Queen also has a lot of build up... especially considering that everything is revolving around 'where is the Queen?'. In TTK, we hear Eris talking to the Queen in the transmissions. In the end cinematic, Eris vows to not fail to the Queen. Even now, speculation for the Queen is all the Awoken really has in terms of interesting plot development. So... to make the Queen the victim of a dark plot line DOES sound likely, however, IMO I think that would be a throw away (also, we're already having a famous character die, so it seems like a bit much to also have the Queen effectively be 'dead but alive' in a sense). My proposal is that it is not Mara Sov… but rather... a Harbinger of Mara. One of the witches, taken by the Hive, and exploring a side of Darkness that somehow coexists with the Light. The Harbingers are female, and I suppose you could call them pretty in the sense of the Awoken in general. A harbinger would also be powerful enough, powered by Hive magics, to propose the problems happening in the Reef without comprising the character of Mara Sov as a character knocked off the rails. The Harbingers are also a secluded group of Awoken. A place called the 'Dreaming City' sounds like a perfect place for a bunch of foresight and deeply magic driven people. Not to mention, the Dreaming City also sounds a big secluded. A harbinger would likely have access to such a place, if not reside in them inherently. To me, this makes the most sense. We already have a lot, and I mean a lot, of rapid character finishes. I don't think Mara is one of them, and I don't think they'll waste her story arch considering how much they pushed Eris to reveal her connection to the Queen to such a large extent. No, I think it'll be Mara vs. Savathun in the Hive DLC if they follow what I think is going to happen. It makes sense. The harbingers have been infiltrated (still holding true to Savathun's strengths), Eris has gone off to help the Queen, the Queen (after this story arch) is poised to reveal or discover some power or vital information for Savathun's arrival. It also correlates how the Awoken have seemingly taken a vow against the Taken in the first place. Perhaps... rather... it is Mara Sov who is ALREADY fighting Savathun in a way we don't realize. The Harbinger being taken is a sign of her weakness, the reason Eris left, and why Uldron has gone to such lengths to perhaps free or take away Mara from this fate. Perhaps... Uldren wants to eliminate the Guardians because Savathun wants the Light. If the Light is gone, the Hive might leave (or at least not care about luke warm Awoken in the terms of light and dark), and Mara will no longer be threatened by something way more powerful than the guardians. Just a thought.

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          • [quote] Those who doubt the existence of dragons are always the first devoured. -cryptic dragon [/quote] Great theory’s. You’d should always be on the lookout for dragons, the quote above tells you why

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            • Considering the raid is always something we get 0 information on except location from bungie, where’s the info come from that says it’s a female end boss? Last I heard from bungie was that the raid boss will fit into the story as they want it to be more connected but that’s it?

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              • It could be Savathun, why not with all the mention she’s been getting. Bungie has been using up quite a few destiny legends of late, Osiris, Rasputin, Nokris , Xol. There is the taken presence in the dreaming city, Savathun being a trickster and deceiver, pulling strings. The prison of elders being such a concentration of powerful “bad guys” it would be a logical spot for her to manipulate, perhaps help the creation of the 8 barons along. Either that or the Sovs have their own understanding and utilization of ascendant power. Mind you Uldren appears rather desperate for that to be the case, but who knows. The awoken are more or less space elves with the taken presence being the evil curse and Savathun the big bad witch.

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                • A fart just exited my butt.

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                  • The boss is Cayde 6. They said female bc Cayde identifies as a girl and this is how they continue to shove their liberal propaganda down our throats.

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                    • On build up, after the warmind DLC I don't think "proper" build up matters anymore.

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                    • If Uldren is hearing voices then it seems extremely likely that an Ahamkara is the source. There is also the line from the sealed ahamkara grasps "Dreamer, awakened, the bearer shall meet." We do have bones of ahamkara for various pieces of armor sooooo maybe we meet an ahamkara. I know there were claims of ahamkara sightings after the hunt so I doubt they were all killed. If my entire race was hunted nearly to extinction I'd be pretty pissed too. Raid boss pissed.

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                      • Immersion broken. I thought you were a Vex Mind.

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                      • Clearly Bungie has finally listened to us. The final raid boss will be none other than...Tess Everis!!!!!! #RemoveEververse will finally come true.

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                        • It will be Uldren with breasts. We had lesbians in the comics, now we need to have some transsexuals, too

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                          • Maybe they are having savathun be some sorta zerg kerrigan character?

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                            *Reads title* [i]Finger tips on the surface of my miiiiiiind!![/i]

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                          • A thought hasn't entered my brain since, oooh, last Thursday *dribble*

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                          • <Hey wtf happened to one of the replies? I wanted to have a discussion.>

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                            • I will be sorely disappointed if savathun is the raid boss. I feel like if they ever actually use her she will get her own story and everything. That being said it is possible that she is influencing Mara from afar and they’ll introduce her later.

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                            • The big question is this - if the final boss is female, will she be straight or gay? This is of the utmost importance to Bungie.

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                            • Before you get to actually damage this female boss you will have to follow her dance moves and then play a game of snakes and ladders with her and only if you win will her shield go down for 10 seconds then you gotta repeat the torturous procedure xD

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                              • ....did you archive it..?

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                              • Surprise! It's Uldren in drag.

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                                • Randal The Vandal conformed?

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                                • Who cares honestly, we will complete the story in an hour or two and forget a week later.

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