Cozmo - would it just make more sense to shut down the PvP entirely in order to make a much better game/game experience for all players at this point? Get all that creative talent you have producing meaningful end game activities, challenging new areas, customizable weapons/armors, even new raids and bosses. Dare I mentioned it - Lore? By reading the forums and even your own postings, the company continually seems to keep falling flat on their face in regards to PvP elements. Hasn't the failed experiment gone on long enough, when will enough be enough? I don't expect a reply from you, and I fully expect a lot of hate in feedback. But what made Destiny was the World, the locations, the lore, the differences that each individual experienced. Destiny 2 when spoken about by the company and by players is nothing but balance and similarities. everyone running (for the most part) the same exact armor, the same exact weapon, the same exact......... that does not make the game fun for anyone. My 2 cents - take them for what they are and throw em in a bowl with the other change lost to redundancy.