you want to find out why they stopped playing??? these guys made entire vids explaining in detail why they stopped playing.. if you havent fathomed out from a detailed description of exactly that what do you need a pie chart and slide rule?
which leads me to bel;ieve your trying to decieve us by saying this. when in truth what you want to do is convince them to start hyping up your DLC
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[quote]you want to find out why they stopped playing??? these guys made entire vids explaining in detail why they stopped playing.. if you havent fathomed out from a detailed description of exactly that what do you need a pie chart and slide rule? which leads me to bel;ieve your trying to decieve us by saying this. when in truth what you want to do is convince them to start hyping up your DLC[/quote] I agree with almost all of these criticisms. We have all said the same things (over and over). But - and this is a big but - it might be the start of some degree of cooperation with and guidance from the player base. They seem to be starting with a cross section of folks who still play avidly and those who got frustrated and decamped for greener pastures. Some streamers and some non-streamers. Maybe this stuff will be ongoing. Maybe they will do these for every update, DLC and major release. Maybe they will eventually ask a wider group of players to come to the next one. Maybe they can use a combination of the forums and person to person feedback to turn this game into what we know it could be. Interesting and varied PvE packed with lore, hidden areas and other secrets. Separately balanced PvP with a nice quick pace and maybe a few more of the D1 maps brought forward. Maybe raids and strikes that offer interesting rewards. Maybe mods that matter. Maybe some way of altering the slot balance. Maybe character ability trees that are more varied and interesting. They could make a generic set for noobs but allow these to be modified. Maybe the best of the suggestions we grunts put on these forums almost daily. Maybe. But “maybe” is a fragile bridge crossing a gaping chasm. You have to cross it carefully and you have to get to the other side or it crumbles to dust.
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A hundred million times YES, that's ALL they're doing. Anybody that thinks any differently is a fool. All the streamers have done is point out in their commentary vids all the reasons why they stopped playing D2. Come on Bungie, it's a $$$$ thing. Nobody wants to watch somebody play a game that's boring as all shit, nobody. The sooner you get this into your head the sooner we can get back to making D2 what it should have been in the first place. You all didn't learn anything from the D1 experience and feedback. NOTHING. If you HAD LEARNED ANYTHING D2 would NOT have been launched the way it was in the first place. This is bullshit.