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3/2/2018 9:08:20 PM
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Calculating the true player count

Before anyone downvotes me based on a narrative, I want to say that the numbers are based off the accounts login which means that each time you switch characters for the first time that week it counts as a login. Let us first look at Pve and Pvp numbers. 381,900 pve players and 158,700 pvp. Not bad. Now let’s give a percentage to each platform. Since PC is likely higher than last gen consoles, let’s estimate a 25% of all players are on pc. Next let’s look at last gen (ps3/x360). A more than fair judgement would be 15% but it is more likely <10%. Now for current gen which will arguably be the highest, at >65%. Next, since there are two games that are accounted for, d2 likely being higher, let’s give it 70% of logins and d1 30%. The destiny tracker numbers also account for d1 logins as well across three characters. Another step would be to give a percentage of players who login weekly with 1,2,or3 characters when they play. Profiles with one login would likely be the least percentage while 2 or 3 characters would be higher. To be fair I gave an even 33% to each profile to make it completely even. Lastly, and what I can’t calculate for is a sample size. To determine the legitimate player count, the sample size must consist of even amounts of players who play on each of the platforms and each of the games. Then, a more accurate scope of the player base will take shape. We also need to factor in how many player play both pvp and pve. I’ll give the same ratio to the current as that seems fair. It’s almost 3:1. So about 1/3rd of pvp plays pve as well. Here are my rough estimates. (No they are not accurate hence “estimates”) PC player count-9042 actual players Xbox one/ps4 player count-24501 actual players X360/ps3 player count-5406 actual players Now I’ve used my estimated percentages above and used them without a sample size meaning this is indeed very rough but close to the actual numbers. How I determined it. First I added both pve and pvp together. Then I used my estimated percentages for each platform (10% last gen, 25% pc, 65% current gen) and multiplied them by the total count (381900 pve, 158700 pvp). After that, I multiplied by .33( 33% for each profile with 1-3 characters). Then I divided by 2 (average character per account) and got the numbers I have now. Take them how you will. Until a legitimate sample size appears, or destinytracker is allowed to show the legitimate numbers, this is what we have to work with.
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  • yo how does xbox one and ps5 have -24501 players

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  • Just had a quick go on it, first for ages, and no players.

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  • bungie put a server for all platform and thats fix all issue of lack of players . Do like microsoft who mix xbox and pc

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  • [u]I only play Destiny on PC[/u] now and i feel like the player count is lower than that. every game i play has someone i know or have played against frequently in it. ([i]NA Location[/i]) the way it only takes 1 or 2 tries to match up against the people you are going to scrim in basically any playlist is good for the purpose of scrimming, however it shows how [u]minuscule[/u] the population has become. I wish D1 would drop for PC i would drop this game in a heart beat and never look back.

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    • I think you made some valid points.

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    • Welp time to bleach my brain cuz that shit ain't hard proof math just mix 'n mash of bull[b]s[/b]hit estimates... [spoiler]IDK try using the destiny API that is publicly usable to find actual data of player count like ffs (even if said API is a finicky little whore)[/spoiler]

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      • 98% of statistics are fake.

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        • Your “calculations” are ultimately just estimates. The sad fact of the matter is that the data we are given about the population is not a reliable metric to base anything off of. So for the love of the traveler, stop. Just stop. Stop trying to quote metrics that are based off of information when you don’t have the raw data to look at and figure out for yourself what it all means.

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          • I love hating on destiny as much as anyone but your "estimates" are guesses and there is nothing accurate at all about this post at all. This post is a complete waste and should be burried in feedback never to be seen again.

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          • Speculative

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          • So many assumptions. And guesses. And estimates. Also, if you honestly think there are only 24,000 people logging into this game on XBOX One and PS4 daily, then you've lost your freaking mind.

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          • TL;DR - Please read my post as I make up numbers and try to convince you they make sense.

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            • I can make up numbers too. Pc = 2400 PS4 = 35860 Xbox = 7.79 and a bit

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              • Edited by Scorpiodisc: 3/5/2018 12:00:17 PM
                TL;DR: [b][u]Most[/u][/b] of the people that own Destiny 2 are no longer playing Destiny 2.

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              • The true player count is my clan, it used to have something like 87 members, go look what we have now. We used to have about 20-30 members active online no matter what time of day it was and whenever I check now it’s usually just 1 or none

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                • Brother- the only TRUE PLAYER COUNT is this. My Friends List- just 90 short days ago was -blam!-ing 8-10 pages long NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY or night...If i wannt play at 12am- i'd play with dozens of my brothers from Australia, New Zeland, UK etc.... Now i don't have a SINGLE -blam!-ING PLAYER ONLINE. NOT ONE. My MAX PERSON CLAN- NOT A SINGLE PLAYER BUNGIE...These are the same bros/gals i've been slowly growing and making relationships for 3.5 -blam!-ing years UP AND VANISHED LIKE A FART IN THE WIND. There's the real PLAYER COUNT BUNGIE...MARK NOSEWORTHY AND THE REST OF YA...Y'ALL botched it and honestly I'm a devoted day one fan...It's taken a month- but i've finally broken myself of my daily ritual of playing Destiny Before and After work and all day long on my days off...It's over- and i'll honestly never bounce back. Lost your fan base to a game that's free to download!! Fortnite the real grind...I'm done - it was once beautiful thing.. lol

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                  • Same everywhere. My clan was 40 people. I’m the only one left playing. Most OG clans have 1 or none if I ask around. I think you can conservatively say that Bungle has lost 95% of its player base. Almost certainly much more. It’s becoming impossible to enjoy the game for me (and it wasn’t easy to begin with).....calling time for now I guess 💩

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                  • [quote]Now I’ve used my estimated percentages above and used them without a sample size meaning this is indeed very rough but close to the actual numbers.[/quote] welp... logic is telling me, nope.

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                  • Edited by fpogen: 3/3/2018 11:39:18 AM
                    hi, im dumb

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                  • TL:DR But basically you think numbers are lower than reported which we all know. Fundamentally the only people that know the true number of unique players per day/week is Bungie. There may be information that can be pulled via their API but then your reliant in that being accurate and not inherently flawed (and having worked on API’s for gathering KPI’s from users trust me there will be inaccuracies)

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                  • Boring as hell. Simple post D2 is boring and slow it’s player base has done one. Job done

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                  • At this point in time does the player count really matter? The numbers are at an all-time low and this franchise is toast.

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                    • The only true player count, my friends list! It’s been at zero for a month... even during the dog days of d1 it would be 15-29.....

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                      • You are pulling percentages out of thin air. Better option might be to look at number of copies sold on each platform and get your percentages that way. That doesn't give you any information on how many people still play d1 tho. Making up percentages isn't helping anyone or proving anything.

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                      • 60% of the time it works every time.

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                        • What happened, Bungie? You were supposed to be the chosen one? #EververseMustDieBeforeDestinyCanLive

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