Hence why I don't raid. Having to NOT die is just too much pressure for a "video game" where the object "is to have fun", or so it used to be until Bungie decided to put our a raid called Leviathan. One big assed puzzle where one simple mistake leads to one wipe after the other. No thanks. I can go outside and try and drop trees exactly where I want them to for frustration. I don't need video games doing that.
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That's hardcore content for you. Well, Destiny completely lacks any kind of difficult content and so you can't call it hardcore. But y'know. Endgame.
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You acknowledge that Destiny 1 and 2 are mmo' s yes? As in, pretty hardcore, supposed to be grindy? Every MMO I know worth it's salt has a raid. Nor.ally they are very fun, you just have to get used to it
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It’s an age old debate but D1 and D2 are NOT MMO’s, FPS yes, but not an MMO.
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Advertised as an Openworld MMO/RPG, both games. You cannot find an advertisement for them without loot, which intrinsically makes them a looter shooter. the Online aspect moves that into MMO territory.