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Edited by Ve7nom: 10/21/2017 6:37:26 AM
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Bungie, you REALLY need to start the communication train about your plans for this game!

It's getting out of hand Bungie, everyone I play with thinks you've either given up on this game or you're just straight up incapable of developing it properly. From content not even worth completing more than once to re-skins to handfuls of features that were in D1 just straight up missing from this apparant sequel, from shallow subclass trees to having zero purpose to actually getting loot, other than for infusing into the weapon or armour piece you already have, to nothing new added or innovated on. My 10th better devils was exactly the same as my 1st (I thought you were doing something about that? I mean that IS what you said in an interview 3 months before the game actually released) From awful, straight up garbage match making in PVP, to the lack of choices a player has when playing Crucible. The STILL bad connection issues (yes I have great wired internet) and being shot through walls or shots not registering at all, to hit registration being as dumb as Forest Gump. WHAT ARE YOU DOING BUNGIE? WHERE ARE YOU? And what are you doing about the game that SO many people love the universe of? It's time to speak up! EDIT: Anyone notice how Cozmo doesn't comment on threads like this, but replies to Mass shader dismantling or how many Cabal drop pod deaths you've had threads? EDIT: So I just woke up and read the weekly update, I think it’s safe to say I’m not logging into Destiny anymore. I can’t justify spending my time on something that’s just not rewarding anymore. I hope many of you follow suit. What’s that phrase? ‘Don’t hate the player..........’ EDIT: There's an interview released today from the BBC from a tour at the Bungie studios, here's a quote from it. [b]"Absolutely we took criticisms of the original Destiny to heart," Jason Jones, co-founder of Bungie, tells Newsbeat. "We knew it had amazing parts... but we also saw the real mistakes we made." In a rare interview inside their Seattle offices, in the USA, he says the experience shaped how they tackled Destiny 2. "It was stuff we already knew but it was a sharp and clear message from our community - they expected better."[/b] And here's the full article if anyone wants to read it http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41667810/behind-the-scenes-at-bungie-making-destiny-2-and-beyond EDIT: So grinding for Bright ENDgames, I mean Engrams is the new end game??? I’m a little lost for words, with increased XP boost on our 1st 3 bright Engrams is anyone actually gonna play the same old content after that? Finding it hard to see the future o Destiny as a positive thing honestly!
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  • Played D1 since beta and 90% of my friends list is Destiny players. We're only a few weeks into D2 and my friend list is empty at peak hours, pretty worrying.

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    • EVERYONE needs to BOYCOTT this game and DO NOT BUY any DLC's . This game is a money grab game , made by arrogants and ignorants devs . Look at the Hard Raid reward , and look at the NO communication from BUNGIE !! Boycott this shit !

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      • I agree with you 100%, but they aren't going to address this stuff. Honestly though, what can they do to fix it? With the double primary system, slow ability recharge, and the emphasis on balance and simplification, this game cannot provide the same experience as Destiny 1. This game, at its core, is meeting the design goals that Bungie/Activision were aiming for. They just aren't fun. Sure, there were cutscenes and a linear story. It was just cliched and boring. Honestly, who didn't know exactly how the story arc would go before playing it? What happened in the story that put you on the edge of your seat? I'm going to guess absolutely nothing. Not to mention the greed of locking sparrows and ships behind bright engrams. Then there's the single use shader debacle. Reskins everywhere. I don't understand how they thought the D1 players would not only be okay with these changes, but that they would be excited about them. It truly blows my mind. I would honestly be shocked, given the bones of this game, if the future of Destiny weren't far more PVP focused. It doesn't seem like the core of the game lends itself to fun/interesting PVE content. There is never a feeling of being powerful and there is no sense of accomplishment. It's just blah. D1 honestly feels like a successor to D2. Here's hoping that they announce something meaningful in 15 minutes, but this "Season 2" announcement will probably be superficial and self congratulatory. It will be a celebration of D2 as a wild success, which we all know is not the case. They need to sell those PC copies.

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        • Edited by theraggededge1: 10/18/2017 9:51:29 PM
          Shhhh let them be stupid. Anthem is coming and its from a top notch Dev. This isnt the division or wild lands, ubi has always been suspect. This is Bioware. If the game looks and plays and has as much content as typical bioware, Destiny is going to be circling the bowl soon if Actibungie doesnt do something to appease its fans.

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          • It is time for the community to rally and push back!! Soon we will have an entire army of Elite PC gamers that take no shit and maybe then they will listen to our demands. This community sticks together through thick and thin, that will not change, with one goal in mind.. the Destiny we want will be ours!

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            • yeah the weekly update sucks. Losing faith. I already reinstalled overwatch for the weekend.

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              • Edited by KLGChaos: 10/19/2017 7:54:11 PM
                So much of this could have been avoided by keeping random perk rolls. People would have a reason to run strikes over and over again trying to get the perfect roll on a gun. There'd be a larger gun variety then the current MIDA/Uriel meta. The token system wouldn't be considered anywhere near as bad. Yeah, it's disappointing when you finally farm so hard for a gun and the roll is bad. But, much like any other loot game, part of the appeal is unwrapping the present. Will it be a good gun or a terrible gun? It creates a sense of excitement and reason to continue playing. Static rolls mean you get the gun once and you're done. It means one or two guns will dominate. You end up getting a lot of repeats which isn't nearly as satisfying. Without a much larger loot pool, you start to see patterns (like four IB helmets in a row, but no gauntlets or chest). Then they got rid off any kind of customization and unique builds. Everything feels the same now due to the long cooldowns and crappy perk packages. There are no unique builds that combine exotics with a certain perk loadout and proper stat distribution to maxmize it (like an Armamentatium grenade spam build or a Monte Carlo/Skullfort melee build). It's been reduced to pure shooter basically. Like Sci-fi CoD. Games like Diabolo 2 and 3 and the Borderlands series have held on for so long because they know that people will continue to farm for the perfect gear long after they've completed everything. They will continue to grind for unique and powerful weapons. They will continue to experiment with different builds that are fun and interesting, and try out weapons that compliment those builds. And those games, even in their vanilla aspects, had a ton more loot that could drop. But Bungie had to scrap all that for their PvP esport. Had to destroy the real grind, customization, unique items and builds... Had to weaken exotics to pointlessness, had to increase cooldowns to force more point and shoot gunplay, and destroy any incentive to even continue playing the game in the name of balancing PvP at the cost of PvE fun. Bungie doesn't seem to realize that their PvE game was just as important, if not more so, than PvP. Its just mind boggling that they would even believe any of this was a good idea. Probably pressure from Activision, but still. Right now, I'm just waiting for Borderlands 3. As a matter of fact, I think after I do my Warlock's flashpoint and clan milestone, I'm going to load up B2 and finish that Gage run through I never finished.

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                • They will not say anything until after the PC release. There's a Forbes article about it. If they address problems before PC release they are inadvertently admitting issues and could affect sales. So the almighty $ takes precedence over a loyal fan base.

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                • lol it's only a game. Muted

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                  • To be fair, they’re doing exactly that in like an hour. Not that it will matter.

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                    • Even a reply to this post from cozmo would be nice but nah

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                        • First, as others have said they're not going to say anything until after the PC launch. They absolutely [i]will not[/i] do anything that might hurt PC sales. Heck, they just admitted in the TWAB yesterday that there are several known issues that will be present at launch. That alone was enough to incite several flame-posts here. Second, they're not going to talk at all outside of canned, pre-approved responses like the TWABs. Anything they want to say has to be approved by Activision first. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236114541?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1]See this thread[/url] for details: the contract documents are there to be read.

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                        • Don't think it matters now, pvp players yesterday were 825k, including D1... With trials cancelled for two weeks, they've killed the game on console, PC release will just extend the death throws of the franchise....

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                          • Nooo the game's good just wait until the new dlc that makes our current weapons useless It'll get better

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                            • To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Rick’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick’s existential catchphrase “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

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                              • I will just leave the lastest interview LMAO http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41667810/how-the-makers-of-destiny-2-learnt-from-their-mistakes

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                                • What communication? They're off in fantasy land atm patting themselves on the back for the terrible job they did.

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                                  • they plan to smoke bomb us every week in and out...

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                                    • I got destiny 2 the night it came out put a total of 30ish hours in and was 286 light on second day. didn't get back on until raid released. Played half raid cause it was glitch ridden then shut off game never got on again. sad....just sad those are indie game numbers and It's a sequel. I wont buy another bungie game again.

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                                      • You clearly haven't gotten friendship to drop.

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                                        • I'm protesting playing until I see a response from bungie about our concerns

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                                          • They really do need to get the players in the loop (if there is a loop) before battlefront 2. Otherwise so many players are likely to disappear it won't be worth playing anymore.

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                                            • But remember, we're just a loud minority of the player base. They don't care about the forums because we're not enough of the players. They'll be glad if we leave and just stop playing. Right? Right Bungie?

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