Are you done grinding planetary tokens for that armor you wanted?
Are you done grinding the gunsmith for that rare gun you want?
Are you done grinding the easy new raid for that armor you want because the raid guns suck?
Are you done grinding the crucible for your Better Devils?
Are you done grinding Trials of the Nine tokens because you can't go flawless due to sweaties?
[b]Well have I got the answer for you![/b]
[b]Behold, IRON BANNER![/b] ([i]Now with 80% less iron[/i])
Grind endlessly for [u][b]new[/b] Samurai themed armor[/u] and guns with an [u]exclusive Iron Banner sticker[/u], but with the added urgency of a limited event making you grind harder than ever before!
Enjoy the absolute worse this game has to offer, with unbalanced teams, bad spawns, and meta players using the most broken weapons.
Fight an endless war of attrition against camping Warlocks with infinite health, or get killed in literally under a second by the Last Word 2.0. Enjoy the endless droning of sirens as the clan you solo-qued up against captures the entire map. Lose to teams with FIVE TIMES YOUR SCORE who have been spawn killing you for the past five minutes. Get killed by a rocket launcher before you're finished the spawn-in animation, or get cross-mapped by fusion rifles. Try to capture a zone while getting hit from 8 pulse grenades, which aren't at all over powered when compared to the other grenades. Discover how useless anything that isn't the meta really is, as you're killed by the Antiope, Uriel's Gift, MIDA, and Last Hope consistently. Learn how powerful Fist of Havok is as the only roaming panic-button super. Ask yourself why Bungie left the Hunter "Wombo-Combo" in the game, only to never use the wombo-combo again, as your super, Shadow Shot, is literally just Nova Bomb, but completely useless.
Wonder what the point of player choice is, as you discover the "One Path to Victory" Shaxx is always talking about is simply playing the meta, with any semblance of skill optional.
[b] But how is this better than the Iron Banners of old? [/b]
The only difference between Iron Banner and regular Crucible? Gone.
That pesky lore of the Iron Lords nobody cared about? Gone.
The uniquely modeled weapons of previous Iron Banners? Gone.
The ability to buy items as you progress? Gone.
The chance to get Iron Banner items as an post-game reward? Gone.
The ability to re-roll weapons? (bet some of you forgot about that) Gone.
The rewarding experience of obtaining high level loot and powerful items? Gone.
[b] All those toxic downsides of Iron Banner are now more dead than the Iron Lords. [/b]
Instead, grind away for meaningless tokens for the RNG slot machine that gives no guarantee your time will be rewarded. Win low level gear and weapons with an [u]exclusive Iron Banner sticker[/u], with a Iron Lord's chance in a SIVA replication chamber of getting the [u]new Iron Banner exclusive [b]Samurai[/b] armor[/u], which doesn't match the theme of Iron Banner one bit. Listen to Overwatch easter eggs that remind you of better games you could be playing, and end your week feeling hollow for spending all your time grinding for the armor you wanted, only to get an endless supply of Iron Banner themed garbage sidearms.
[b] Let us take a moment to thank Bungie for this event. [/b]
This event that showcases every single flaw of Destiny 2.
This event that showcases the faults of the Crucible.
This event that showcases how unrewarding the game is.
This event that has managed to royally piss me off.
[b] Thank you Bungie. [/b]
P.S. I'm never playing Iron Banner again...until some stupid new gear comes out and I force myself to endure more of this cancer and rip my hair out.
EDIT: [b]I GOT THE HELMET! [/b]
[i]My quest is over. I am at rest. [/i]
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Lol at the 85% clutching on to any last bit of hope. Its over, nothing to see here, move on people.
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I haven't raided yet lol. I want to but can't
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[u]Weapons[/u] A good majority if not all weapons feel the same. I like the idea of adding mods to weapons but let's really add mods to them. In Destiny 1 I had the Vanquisher Auto-Rifle and my brother did as well but his had double the amount of bullets in the magazine; same gun but yet different. I would like to get a Gun and go to the Gunsmith and be able to purchase extended mags, scopes, longer or shorter barrel, rapid fire, and ofcourse energy type. I like the feeling that even though someone else has the same weapons I was able to make it my own. I also liked the perks in Destiny 1 vs various enemies in PVE which most weapons in Destiny 2 don't have. I.E +percentage damage against (insert enemy), regain health when certain enemy is killed etc etc. [u]Armour[/u] There is no Difference in Armour between any of the legendary armour pieces other then the appearance. Since certain pieces of armour are redeemed only at a planet's vendor shouldn't the armour atleast give you a perk against the types of enemies on that planet and or unlock a special perk when a complete set is worn. Exotic or Legendary Armour Quest that are planet specific only given once you hit a certain level at the respected vendor. [u]Factions[/u] Between New Monarchy, Dead Orbit, and Future War Cult there should be unique Ships, Sparrows, weapons and armour that are specific to each faction that can be purchased if you aren't in the faction. There should be perks specific to each faction piece of armour and possibly turns one piece into an Exotic when all worn together. An Exotic primaries, energy, and power weapons should be unique to each faction. [i]Faction Rally[/i] There should not only be weekly faction donations but in addition a crucible game mode called Faction Wars or something along those lines where you are pitted against other factions in a 4v4v4 where you get more opportunities for faction loot. In Faction Wars you should only be allowed to use Faction Armour and Weapons and light level should matter. [u]Iron Banner[/u] Playing Iron Banner this week felt like something was missing, maybe the fact light level didn't matter or loot drops were out of my control and when I reached Iron Banner lvl 10 all received was an Emblem which does nothing for me. Iron Banner should've had light level mattered, maybe something like able to equip more then one exotic weapon at a time, and or supers have shorter cool down time. [i]Iron Banner Loot[/i] There should be Iron Banner Exotics given in quest once you hit a certain level in Iron Banner. When Iron Banner gear exotic or legendary is equipped they should all have iron banner specific perks I.E xp and token bonuses. [u]Exotics[/u] Some Exotics do not feel exotic well most of them. They feel like some Legendaries from Destiny 1 just with one or two perks. [i]Exotic Ideas[/i] Duel wield Hand canons/ Sidearms/ SMGs either for the kinetic slot or energy slot if it's an Energy Weapon maybe one is arc/void/solar and the other is another energy type. Grenade launcher that changes energy type depending on what class you use whether it be Arc/Solar/Void and then the ammo would be the grenade equipped meaning that even though it's the same gun it could many variations depending on your class or damage type. Fusion Rifle that has 3 rounds in its magazine and changes energy type every time it's fired and each type of energy has different characteristics. Dual Wielding swords we have the sky burners oath the icarus shotgun I think a cool addition would be the swords that the Cabal Maulers have. [i]Xur[/i] I think Xur should only be selling gear from Destiny 1.
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Got my Hunter Set last night, only took me 38 engrams.. :D
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1. During special events like iron banner and faction rallies the event specific loot should dismantle into fifty percent of the number of tokens needed to get an engram. If you don't get what you want you're at least half way to another chance. 2. A buff to the amount of tokens you get period, and on your alternative characters. 3. Lord Salad should have given a ghost shell that could have tracked the number of packages, kills, and rank. Heck the ghost shell could have given the buff to tokens. Yes, I think we should have kept IB ranks.... 4. Lord Salad should have sold at least one weapon and one armor piece that you couldn't buy until you reached a certain rank. That everyone has a chance to get something for sure and then you roll the dice on engrams to complete your sets. 5. IB weapons and armor really should have the lore tabs seeing how we as guardians are iron lords. It wouldn't have hurt to have specific perks that can only found on IB gear either. I know other players feel similar about some of the things I list, but I have sinking feeling that we won't see change until the dlc.
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Edited by Acrobaticon: 10/16/2017 1:39:42 PMmake no mistake that loot duplication / overall reward is the issue here and not the grinding itself. especially when there is no real distinction between iron banner and generic crucible. to grind for e.g. 4 hours and you get a set of loot is great but after your next 4 hour grind or 8 hour grind, to keep receiving the same loot is nonsense. there's that one video we've probably all seen where the guy receives the EXACT same rewards 4 engrams in a row and varying rewards after that also duplicate. grinding is fine, for several hours even, so long as you are rewarded in such a way that warrants it. personally, i feel sick after the amount of grinding i did, fully under the impression that i would be able to claim all the armour i wanted for my titan providing i put the effort in. unfortunately, despite my 31 packages so far, bungie hasn't met their end of the deal and my titan is gauntlets free. although i have 4 pairs of boots, 2 chest pieces, 2 helmets, and 20–30 odd weapon dupes that are now shards. **EDIT: one other thing to consider with grinding is the timeframe. i understand those that cannot get time to grind and have only gotten 5–10 packages are the people who will jump into iron banner next time to carry on. those that do have more time, to get all the armour in one go, should be able to grind as much as they want and receive the rewards in a scaled proportion to the time invested.
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Tip: Put on mida and Uriels gift - easy pz
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Amen! I have literally traded in 20-25 engrams between 3 characters to get 5 pieces of armor, 1 hand cannon, and all the rest have dropped the sub machine gun! Its ridiculous. Completely pointless to grind the IB if you aren't guranteed to be able to buy the armor. RNG is a joke in Destiny and has always been a joke. I have traded in countless exotic engrams to have received Merciless and risk runner at least 10 times each.
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One of the few long posts I've read on here. Quiet enjoyable. Keep grinding so I can keep reading the frustration
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Iron Banner Loot rng is so bad it feels like open contempt against the players.
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Absolutely its horrible, Destiny 2 is the worst pvp I have played in my life, crucible is -blam!-in terrible.
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1 ReplyThere should be a new matchmaking system where those who sweat and try hards from trials should be evaluated and place in another bracket while others who want to consistently and progressively better. Quite frankly this game has gone from great for good week/month to a cesspool of a community that reflects from Ark. it’s alright, there are far more better games out there in the future.
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1 Reply-blam!- iron teamshot va full parties of sweaties. This shot is trash. Make it 6v6 you goon ass -blam!-s
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3 RepliesForgot to add that your random teammates are stupid and run off to try and 1v4 the enemy team the whole game. You figure that they might learn after the fifth or sixth time, but they don't.
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3 RepliesEdited by PantslessGamer: 10/16/2017 12:36:53 PMthis iron banner is not fun, not cause of the meta but because of tokens. let me put this right first though i dont mind the token system but the fact u get so many duplicates and they are not even at your current light is not right in my opinion. i havent touched iron banner for a few days because i kept getting duplicates but today i thought id give it one more try and see if i was wrong. Guess what ,,,, i wasnt. all duplicates and nothing useful.. it just made my time feel wasted and unrewarding. really not fun, so i think ill give iron banner a miss from now on and concentrate on other things. Great idea by bungie but in my opinion very poorly implemented. Love your game (Mostly) BTW :)
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6 RepliesYou mean iron Cowards -run away from every gunfight and teamshoot edition-
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Edited by Proto6unner: 10/16/2017 1:13:08 PMI like the game mode and got the full armor for my Hunter.
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23 packages in still no helmet...
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Been quit Iron Banner, what a joke! Saladin: Heres the same 5 rewards for 5 days straight!
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26 packages. No Auto. No gloves! About 18 of the items were duplicates of the 26 rep packages received!!!!! 80% were losses and 20% wins. It took me about 3hrs a day to grind this SH1T! IB has been one of the worse experiences I have had in a game. It was not fun and it was not rewarding! I'm going to move on from Destiny. This has left a real bad taste in my mouth. I cannot take the stress of this anymore. It was hands down the worst IB ever and also the worst grind I have ever done for a game. This was not fun at all! Bungie should seriously rethink what the hell their doing!
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2 RepliesChildren: Bungie there's no grind in the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bungie: Here ya go a grindy IB. Children: IB is tooo grindy worse game ever! Bungie: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Edited by themirror2man: 10/16/2017 12:48:28 PMIf Last Hope and Mida get folks kills... yea they shouldn't equip them. I will. All crucible games are erroneously made right now. Half the time i just walk forward continuously and stop to eat some ramen like "whatever" doesn't matter... I'll still get tokens. Groups that stick together and group shot usually win. Mmmm I smell ramen. Using wave emote while ur getting headshot doesn't seem to be making "friends" to good. Food for thought.😁
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Agreed
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I am really not liking this whole token system. I have been getting duplicate gear on everything else I'm not putting down my time in Iron Banner because if anything (most likely) I'm just going to get duplicate rewards in a loop there as well. Also the Iron Banner gear that I'm receiving is dropping at a lower level than Im currently am just like how majority of the rest of the things I get.
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Fair comment. My experience exactly.
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16 packages and still no helm, class item, chest, assault riffle or handcannon.