Ok before the insults and flaming start - this is an opinion and if it doesn't mirror your own. Fine - I respect other opinions and postings. Please be mature in doing so! The new raid is by far the worst raid we have seen from both one and 2. I have never complained about any of the raids & loved them all. Leviathan just feels terrible. Even skolas had moments but for this post not calling skolas a raid. The dogs mechanics are straight up boring and the gauntlet doesn't even feel fun. That's 2 of the 3 stages before the boss fight that are actually a drag. The fat enemies coming up from the pools is great but most of the raid isn't even a raid? No Templar, golgoroth, sisters or any of the previous encounters that made destiny raiding excellent. Even the chest system is straight up lame. I couldn't care about low rewards but grinding this raid even to get the under belly chests is so boring. Finding groups that after completion actually want to grab the chests or help with the other keys they don't have? Then to top it off. Even to get those chests - it's all stealth mechanics also??? Splinter cell games are left off my shelf for a reason. Man hunt was great but did it have to be the under tone in destiny 2?