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9/23/2017 9:13:17 AM
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Dead Orbit = Cowards New Monarchy = Authoritarian A-holes Future War Cult = Badass Warriors Pretty simple choice
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  • I'm sorry, I must have missed all your "bad ass" FWC warriors helping me stop the red legion... Oh... Wait ... They weren't there. The going got tough and they ran away. At last dead orbit and new monarchy are helping people

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  • Yea i guess you did miss it... because the only thing I saw after the attack was myself a FWC approved ass kicking machine stomping on the red legion. I would say taking the fight direct to the darkness is helping the people of the city.

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  • FWC=LGBT DO=GOTH NM=TRUMP Joking obviously but I will be going with all of them because I'm a greedy bastard and I want all the loot lol.

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  • Look at the NM armor and say that again.

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  • Eh i don't see anything particularity amazing about any of the sets of armor.

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  • Im with you there medieval for the win and the shader is amazing on it. PLZ dont -blam!- it up bungie...

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  • Ikr

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  • Lol, pretty much how I see it. The only reason I don't usually go with FWC is because of their color scheme

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  • The vibrant color helps us stand out on the battle field. It's there to let everyone know to get the hell out of our way so we can handle business.

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  • So -blam!-ing true FWC !!!!!

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  • If it's for exploration and survival, is it really cowardly? Or just good sense.

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  • I mean you can re-word it however you want but dead orbit thinks there is no hope to beat the darkness. They want to abandon the traveler and the city and run away and start over in another solar system. They are just hoping that the darkness doesn't find them there too.

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  • [quote]I mean you can re-word it however you want but dead orbit thinks there is no hope to beat the darkness. They want to abandon the traveler and the city and run away and start over in another solar system. They are just hoping that the darkness doesn't find them there too.[/quote] I mean, can you blame them? Humanity almost went extinct the first time the darkness attacked! And now, we are weaker than ever. I think we should fight, but have a reserve fleet capable of escaping the darkness. I don't want a repeat of the colony ships in the cosmodrone.

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  • Edited by Un1337ninj4: 9/23/2017 4:33:47 PM
    You forget two key notes here; 1) FWC is also a political cabal. They had fingers in Clovis Bray pre-collapse and up to now retain influence among the City elite. If they come to power it won't be in the open. All governing entities eventually grow corrupt, when they do the populace will blame the assorted CEOs and public heads and the real problem would persist and could easily fall into something right out of Orwell's imagination. 2) New Monarchy is first and foremost there to nurture the populace, science, and support the City and it's Guardians. They put forth the effort to protect City supply lines and improve the QoL in the slums and on the streets. The only means they'll accept their titular goal is "By vote of the Consensus...". That alone assumes the current governing body must not only agree to refute their political power, but trust it to someone else (beyond hilarious). Let's say however somehow they go along with that plan and the Monarch grows corrupt, by this point the new Golden Age will have begun and all that's required is a little revolution to get another system in place. So, indeed the choice is quite simple.

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  • you're right in some sense new monarchy's first goal is to nurture the populace and science and to bring about a 2nd golden age. But that is their first goal simply as the means to bring about their ultimate goal. Their ultimate goal is to use those things to manipulate the people to unknowingly vote for an all powerful authoritarian figure to rule over all. They aren't just going to come out and say it. They want them to feel like it was a democratic process. "7. To, by vote of the Consensus, abolish the Consensus, and transfer ultimate power, in order that the rights and liberties of all citizens be secured, to a single sovereign of unimpeachable character."

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  • Edited by Un1337ninj4: 9/24/2017 7:46:25 AM
    Convenient how you ignore the second part of my little jaunts. [quote]If they -[i]The FWC[/i]- come to power it won't be in the open. All governing entities eventually grow corrupt, when they do the populace will blame the entities they influence. The real problem would persist and could easily fall into something right out of Orwell's imagination. [/quote] [quote]"By vote of the Consensus...". That alone assumes the current governing body must not only agree to refute their political power, but trust it to someone else (beyond hilarious). Let's say however somehow they go along with that plan and the Monarch grows corrupt, by this point the new Golden Age will have begun and all that's required is a little revolution to get another system in place.[/quote]

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  • Perhaps. If you buy the New Monarchy party line What you pasted could easily just be propaganda

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  • Dead orbit is for n00bs

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  • [quote]Dead Orbit = Cowards New Monarchy = Authoritarian A-holes Future War Cult = Badass Warriors Pretty simple choice[/quote]

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