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Edited by ntkawano:
12/17/2017 2:38:13 AM
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People leaving crucible early (Should they be penalized?)
It's a problem.
Whenever someone leaves the match prematurely, it just sucks for everyone. Not only does it drastically turn the tide of the match but it discourages players from playing in the crucible. I've played several matches were its been 4v3 and no matter if you're winning or losing, it just does not feel right. Maybe it's just me but at the very least, there should be a new player if someone leaves like in Destiny 1.
Additionally, players that leave should be penalized for leaving early. [b]I KNOW[/b], people leave for good reasons (ex: bad connection) but there are those who leave simply because their team is losing. No matter what the reason, a penalty should be in place to limit this problem.
My suggestion is to "mark" player who leave early. This mark will prevent a player from earning any tokens, loot, stats from the crucible for a given time, perhaps an hour. While players can still participate in PvP matches, the lack of awards for a given time will either prevent these people from leaving matches early or prevent them from playing in the crucible at all.
I can anticipate the public hate for this post but seriously, if nothing is done then events like Trials and Iron Banner will go on with this issue resulting in a player base that are discouraged and frustrated, but perhaps most importantly, unheard.
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Edited by Sadfrown: 9/15/2018 12:35:49 PMHonestly, I think they shouldn’t have to penalize players who leave early for any game whatsoever. If your house is on fire and you’re in the middle of a crucible match or gambit match, you shouldn’t leave because you would get penalized and either suspended or possibly banned. Or your friend is dying right infront of you, and instead of doing something, you continue to play and tell him “Sorry bro! Can’t do anything without the possibility of getting kicked man! My bad 🤷♂️!” Or if you need to use the bathroom and are about to piss yourself but you’re in the middle of a match. Lol, but in all seriousness here, lots of us would have justified reasons for leaving, while others leave for obnoxious reasons(losing, lack of players, etc) in which they deserve the punishment/penalty.
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1 ReplyWhat players leaving the matches early shows is that they care more about their win/loss ratio and their KD stats more than they actually care about PLAYING THE GAME. I am an old school gamer, when the only way to play multiplayer was to invite your friends over for a split screen match (GoldenEye, Perfect Dark best multiplayer games to date IMO). Now if you were to quit a match and throw your controller down and say I'm not playing, you got penalized by not being invited over anymore for being a sore loser or an ass whooping if it wasn't your controller you just threw. And in all reality, that's all everyone of y'all 'quitters' do when you leave a match, you care more about your stats, and they are virtual stats at that, then playing the game and staying cuz it's the right thing to do. If it starts out as an equal match, then so it should stay. All you who leave are a bunch of punks, straight up hos whos butts got hurt cuz they weren't on a good team, or they don't like the playlist. Well then don't play!! Don't make it suck for the rest of us more than it already does bc you don't like something. Grow up, wimps. And it's a sad state of affairs when people care more about stats then they do actually playing the game. And you call yourselves gamers, you're not gamers, you're just looking for some meaning to your low existence thru a a game via your stats and wins, pathetic you all are.
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Edited by eyewitness: 1/4/2018 11:49:04 PMif you get the players to stay, it does not mean they play, they stand still and wait. maeby eat breakfast or jumping down to death.i guess it piss you off more.. you waiting new round and enemy try to find last players. would give this even some useful stuff. i play 80 compititive match in a row and it gives one exotic engram. todays I'm leaving every other time.there is not any stuff here so it is worth staying, when you reached 20 level. if all four are in the end it just gives some satisfaction that fireteam. why give penalty customers who atleast brought this game and cost lots of money.
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1 ReplyPlayers should not be penalized until Bungie fixes their shit. I just left a match early because we started the match 2 players vs 4 players. According to your logic I should be marked. I shouldn't have to take a beating because the folks at Bungie can't figure out how to match people. I also shouldn't have to play the games I don't want to. I fu*king hate supremacy in D2. I'm not going to play just because it was selected for me. That's bullshit! Also, let's be honest, who really cares if you can't get loot or stupid tokens. Once you hit 305 you don't need them. This game is flawed in so many ways and the crucible is the BIGGEST disappointment of all. In my opinion the only way to enjoy it is to play the way I want to. Not to be a dick but I don't owe anything to other guardians who can't shoot straight or a totally broken matchmaking system.
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2 RepliesThat is great, but I leave because I have no choice in the game that I play. I hate the crucible, especially now that it is random. So until they stop that, I would say that there are going to be people that quit.
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2 RepliesFirst Bungie need to fix: 1. Servers booting players 2. Solo players being matched against teams of 3/4 players. Have fun and may RNG be forever in your favor.
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2 RepliesIf I leave every Supremacy match as soon as possible, can I please be penalized by not allowing me to play Supremacy anymore?
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If they let us choose the game type we play (screw 3+ straight games of Supremacy) and adjust MM so you don't go against 3 & 4 stacks practically every single game (I've had 1 in the last ~15 games), you'll have a lot less people leaving matches. I love the Crucible. It was my favorite thing to do in Destiny 1 (I played 1000+ hours), but this is grinding me down worse than any previous meta. I would legitimately rather have SBMM than this. 100%, no question, hands down, zero wavering on the matter. It's downright painful after a while and people can only take so much. My limit is 4 games in a row against full fireteams and that's pretty much the norm now. I try to leave the lobby before the MM closes if I see a 3 or 4 stack, but the UI is so flipping slow you can't always see who you're up against until you're in transit. I know leavers suck, but perhaps we should be looking at [b]fixing the cause[/b] rather than [i]OMGPUNISHLEAVERS[/i]. Just saying.
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3 RepliesI would like that. But first. They need to fix the fact that we can't select game modes and give competitive actual ranks and rewards.
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1 ReplyIf I'm getting dominated by some sweaty clan in quickplay, I'm going to leave. They should be restricted to the Competitive playlist.
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If I notice that I am against a full fire team from the same clan I leave straight away and I don't feel guilty at all. An if it's supremacy I am out the door asap.. if it's not fun, it's not getting done..
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I don't care what the prize is at the end.. If I'm solo I don't wanna play against groups with mics. Even if they aren't a clan I can tell with in the first 3mins of the match. And I leave. Go rub your kda on other solos who want to take it
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Nope, I've been booted offline in crucible a few times already.
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1 ReplyIt really doesn't matter. Without a ranking system, who really cares if they lose? I mean, sure it can be frustrating but it's not like competitive or quickplay is competitive lol
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To be able to choose the gamemode would make less people leave.
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1 ReplyI think yes, but who knows why people leave though. I'm sure some people leave on their own choice, but people can also lose connection, they may have to leave cause of plans they've made. Who knows. Honestly, I don't have too big of a problem with it cause when someone leaves at least someone will take their place. I hate it when people are in the game, but their not active! ...Not only are they an easy kill for the enemy, but your team is short a player and no one can take their place cause they're still in the game. THAT I HATE!
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1 ReplyI leave whenever as a solo player, I find myself playing against Fireteams. No point in staying, rewards are bad and it is only a video game.
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I would say yes, but wirh all the error codimg of late idk
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1 ReplyIf the gameplay was actually fun maybe people wouldn't quit 🤔
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Quickplay - no Competitive- yes
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In Quickplay I was matched against a clan team of four and frankly they were skilled. Two of my fireteam left. I tried to stick around but I kept dying on respawn so I just quit too.
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If i was in a game in D1 i'd stay to the end even if our team got hammered. In D2 though i get dropped into game modes i don't like...so i leave. Does that count?
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i don't think it would work because of issues like bad connection, forced removal by other team, and other things that inexplicably happen that cause people to leave and punishing them for that will create an even bigger discouragement and frustration.
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Edited by TheKingInYell0w: 9/19/2017 7:59:36 PMIf they toned down Skill Based Match Making then yes, you should be penalized. As the game is now... if you expect me to stay in a match against a squad of four that's squashing my team through a meat grinder... picking up the bloody chunks and squashing them through it again... You're out of your f_ckn mind, and you can bet your ass I'm gonna back out of that ridiculous nonsense every damn time.
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Edited by BaconRiot: 9/19/2017 7:21:49 PMThey might be lagging out. I keep having teammates that I know irl lag out on me. They have exceptional internet speeds too. I may be more of an infrastructure issue than a personal one.
