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Edited by FoxIntox: 9/9/2017 12:32:18 AM
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Can we please stop putting fireteams of 4 against teams of randomly-matched soloqueue players ?

Just please stop . Like , stop . Really . Because Bungie has mad it clear tha they want their matchmaking to be as fair as possible . Well before tweaking skill-based matchmaking and such , maybe they should make sure NOT to put teams of people who probably know eachother , have played with eachother before and with COMMUNICATION against teams of people who soloqueued , who were randomly put together and who have no way of communicating . EDIT: also stop breaking up teams between EACH game . Like seriously , it already takes 10 minutes to find a game , that's made even worse if you have to do it every fricking time even if you were matched up against the perfect team on the same level as you .

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  • They need playlists for every gamemode specifically for solos.

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  • I called it as soon as they announced 4v4 pvp. My exact comments were... 1. I bet they're going to make trials 4v4 and this is to try and get more people in trials. 2. Wtf would they reduce the number of activities you can do in large groups. This is an mmo style fame, point is to play with friends, who in the hell REDUCES the activities with friends????? 3. Less people will pvp in d2 because of the above. the overwhelming majority of friends I have on d2 have said the pvp sucks and they aren't playing. 4. Ps. Fighting your teammates for heavy while fighting the opposite team for heavy is not fun.

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  • I'm still playing D1 crucible ..if they put Trials back, no one will play D2 pvp lol 😂

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  • I agree with you on that because if you want to play solo you are stuck with team's that might not be good and you would most likely face a full party which is unbalanced most of the time. I think they should of stick with 6v6 there was nothing wrong with that.

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  • They'll change up the PVP format in the next DLC, so we all need to get the DLC lol 😂

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  • I'd like to suggest a solution to this, which would be along the same lines of a guided game. Teams entering in parties or groups use a separate matchmaking or even 'clan' matchmaking where rewards for victory are higher but uses the competitive playlist. If you are down a member on this playlist you can use guided games to fill out any empty slots but the pubbies would be aware that this is a clan match up and be expected to communicate. You still allow groups in quick play and competitive play lists but you still randomise teams so clannies don't punish pubbies.

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  • IT'S TRIALS EVERY SINGLE MATCH I KEEP GETTING PUT UP AGAINST FULL CLANS AND GETTING MY ASS HANDED TO ME. NOW THERE IS CAMPING I PLAYED CRUCIBLE BECAUSE UNLIKE BLACK OPS THERE WAS VERY LITTLE CAMPING. THIS IS AWFUL IT SUCKS AND BUNGIE SHOULD BE ASHAMED. .

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  • Just played 2 matches....one was me and randoms vs a 4 man premade clan. Lost both matches i played. I suck at Destiny PvP but garbage matchmaking doesnt help, any other games PvP i manage to do pretty well in CoD, Battlefield etc....Destiny it just seems like its all KB&M adapter abusers and hardcore PvP players and each match is a landslide victory and a blowout. Destiny 1 and 2 has some of if not the worst PvP ive ever played....and their lack of dedicated servers doesnt help.

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    • Yes its very annoying, havent played a game where I wasnt coming against minimum 2 FTplayers, 3-4 on average. I suppose it will change in the future, not very enjoyable, even quickmatch

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    • They need to bring in a more casual pvp mode. The game is so difficult in pvp its untrue. It was great at first but ive not had fun in ten matches

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    • Edited by Mayhem420: 9/9/2017 8:07:59 AM
      D2 PvP just isnt for me. I am not a fan of small team tactics myself. Others love it.. just makes every match way to competitive and plodding.. Bungies answer will be "Join a clan!"

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      • Already felt it in the beta, only 4v4 lack of variety compared to D1 which has 6v6 3v3 2v2 and rumble. Slower health regen, longer time to kill, more about teamshooting, power ammo limited to first come first serve aka fighting for power ammo kinda sucks, share the fun. Assist count as kills is patronising if I did bad let me know so I can improve.

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        • In the first week of a game they should be able to put teams v teams. Its not acceptable to put full teams v solo players. Especially with how teamwork heavy the game is.

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        • Yes! I agree this happens to me a lot. If I'm solo, which is often. Then I get matched up w a FULL fire team that goes hard! Lol Meanwhile, my team is mediocre n I get teamshotted by 4 guys at the same damn time!

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          • The weapons are so weak also , the teamshotting is ridiculous, its needs to go back to destiny 1 pvp asap

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            • Another side effect of 4 v 4 is quitting raises the stakes much faster than in 6 v. 6. You might be able to hang on if you're losing in a 6 v 5 or even 6 v 4 until the game replaces those guys. But in Destiny 2, if you lose someone its 4 v 3 and if another quits (which has happened to me), its now 4 v 2. Very difficult to come back from that if they aren't replaced quickly. So when you get matched as a solo player against a team of 4 clanmates and one of your teammates quits, well, you can do the math.

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              • They do this in SWTOR as well.. Entire teams of well geared and well trained players can go against 8 random morons all day long. "But but but it's a multi-player game. I just want to play with my friends." Yeah, you just want to play with your friends against unarmed PUGs. Gimme a break. Match PUGs with PUGs and match teams with teams. It's not rocket surgery.

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                • Edited by off3nc3: 9/9/2017 4:19:18 PM
                  Every major game title has this option implemented since launch. Everyone saying get good or get a 4 man team ? That's rubbish ain't nobody want to forcefully group up . Some ppl enjoy the lone wolf experience which is alot more rewarding. Bungie needs to adress this ASAP !

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                • yea its stupid making it 4v4 every match now is basically sweaty teams just wrecking everyone, No room for people who just wanna casually play a few games, really terrible, They have just made 4 man trials practice,its really crap just teams running around together in packs, R.I.P destiny pvp.

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                • The reason this is more noticeable is because the primary weapons in this game are weaker than d1. So as a squad you can literally group up right next to each other and have no fear of dying to even 2 decent players. A handcannon takes 4 shots, when it was 3, you could flank successfully and kill a player before he notices. Now after 2 shots a player can get away even with their back turned to you. The lack of special ammo/heavy weapons leads to this behavior as well. We don't have fast TTK weapons so PVP is becoming more of a group up as a squad sit in the back and wait. Its happening already, especially in a game type like survival. Thank god trials is countdown because if it was survival a card would take like 3 hours lol. In almost every gametype the max score isnt reached unless you're in a squad of 4 and you decimate the other team. Its usually well under the finishing score because there is zero incentive to move around the map. Why leave a small area as a squad in clash/survival? Power ammo? A shotgun you can't get close enough, sniper flinch still exists so thats a challenge. A rocket will net you a few kills but then after that you're back to square one. Really what needs to happen is primaries need to kill faster so a solo player can pick off 2 guys by flanking or a guy can win a 1v2. You could get 3 kills with one mag with a lot of primaries in D1. You cant do that in D2 because of how weak they are. Thats just in the limited time Ive played.

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                  • I enjoy Destiny 2 PvP being a complete travesty and utterly destroying the things people liked about Destiny 1 PvP... Because I'm using sarcasm as a coping mechanism to get over the fact that Bungie took 2 steps forward in PvE, but decided to take 3 steps back in PvP.

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                    • I haven't played crucible in 2 yet, but just like in 1, I'll grind it for rep/loot, but as a mostly solo player, going in as a lone wolf and expecting to accomplish much of anything is only inviting heartache.

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                      • What the hell happened in bungies pvp department? 4v4 only Cant choose game type Have to find 8 new players every game Whoever is calling the shots in the developers pvp room needs to be slapped. Hard. Whoever he is, he's terrible and has no buisness being there.

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                        • Wow im glad i did not buy this game.

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                          • I literally had 2 of my teammates leave a match. Me and a random took on 4 teabagging idiots. We won but i saw the enemy was a clan of 4.

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                          • Even though destiny pvp is pretty casual but there still need to be some fairness. One obvious advantage for fireteam is leavers. With no leave penalty, the opposite team will have leavers while fireteam is always at full strength. Please pit fireteam against fireteam as first priority unless there are absolutely no other teams.

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