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Edited by eternalazhrei:
5/30/2017 5:32:34 PM
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Really Bungie? This is the Arcstrider/Poledancer ranged super attack?
Check the video from 2:07 to 2:09.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn1dML6RC5w&index=1&list=PLZUnIN1M4R_9yoPSXzV6x7d70fpy1l_eK#t=83.431661[/url]
I've checked over the footage from the gameplay footage to try and find something to show me that Arcstrider will be more than just a Bladedancer reskin, something to make it worth using in PvE, and this is all we get. This is it. Bungie... I'm sorry, but as a Hunter Main... this is pathetic. It's not even very wide, and doesn't go very far either. You can see the Cabal hound just a little to the right survives the attack.
Arcblade is the worst D1 PVE super. Every other D1 super has utility against adds & bosses, and some had more than that. Arcblade was always ONLY useful for adds, and not even that much, especially after the nerds. It's got terrible range for PVE's regularly open spaces, and with Poledancer looking the same way and not even appearing to have Showstopper or Razor's Edge it does not look effective at all.
Can we maybe be able to plant it or throw it, just once, ending the super, to make a lightning rod? Like an Arc version of a Sunspot? Stick it to a boss or in the ground or a wall to deliver DoT Arc damage? That's at least got some utility. But an entirely melee super that's DoT on a class that generally has less armor and poorer survival was a bad idea in Destiny 1 PVE. Bladedancer practically dissappeared from PVE when Nightstalker was introduced for just this reason.
I mean... I know it's great for PVP, but as long as there are boss slams, Poledancers are going to fall to bits. At least a Titan's Striker class looks tough enough to stand up to a boss for their now multiple slams... And the lightning rod idea wouldn't be that overpowered in PVP (remember, it would end the rest of the super). Just avoid the area where the staff is, like a tether or aftermath or grenade or sunspot.
Yes, I'm complaining a lot, but I'm tired of having two viable PVE subclasses and now they're dashing my hopes that they'd fix Bladedancer in Destiny 2. It was fun at the beginning, but then Bladedancer was only useful for invisibility. Arcstrider looks fun... but it will get old fast if it's as bad as it looks.
Edit: The reason I'm complaining about this now is because when the beta drops, they'll likely be focused on bugs and other issues. If the Arcstrider is actually going to be a viable PVE class to replace the useless PVE class of Bladedancer... we gotta strike while the iron is hot. Tell them now, not later.
Edit 2: Looking back over the Destiny 1 Gameplay reveal video... getting a bit nostalgic for that early game content, I'm looking forward to Destiny 2. And at the beginning I'm sure a lot of people will enjoy Arcstrider. I'm going to give it a chance then too. But I'm still nervous it'll be Bladedancer for PVE all over again. I'm sorry if people think the lack of footage means we can't judge and I should shut up, personally I think the lack of footage when we have so much for Dawnbreaker & Sentinel is a bad signal, but I'm going to give it a chance. I just hope Bungie has fixed what they couldn't fix throughout all of Destiny 1.
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1 ReplyThis is why I think arc strider should lose all stealth perks and become a tougher, faster melee centric subclass, while night stalker should transition to a stealth based assassin playstyle. I would like arc strider to be a proper melee fighter, tough enough to take hits and strong enough to tear through enemies with melee alone.
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4 RepliesWell you see they're probably like the lightning grenade where the radius isn't done justice with the animation. Example. Lightning grenade animation. [spoiler] https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oMHV5uHTVYY/maxresdefault.jpg[/spoiler] Actual lightning grenade radius. [spoiler] https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2fyrHW5djuA/maxresdefault.jpg[/spoiler] As you can see the difference is noticeable.
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You're joking right? A YouTube video....😂😂 I swear you people are straight moronic
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4 RepliesEdited by Darklighter01: 5/30/2017 5:14:53 PM[quote]from 2:07 to 2:09.[/quote] [spoiler]Really? 2 seconds?[/spoiler]
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6 RepliesEdited by zSwabee: 5/26/2017 12:23:16 AMHoly shit. First we are complaining that we don't have a ranged attack (which was clearly shown in the trailer btw, everyone complaining about that was just too dumb to see it) and now we are complaining that it's not good enough?!? Omg let us see more before we start marching down the street with pitchforks. I think it was Byf that said something along the lines of "it's okay to have your pitchforks at the ready..." but for -blam!-s sake calm it down a little. And stop with the BD drama, it was useable, just not easy calm down. - a sick and tired hunter main
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5 RepliesOh God Hunters crying tears ALREADY !!!!
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6 RepliesEdited by Ninja_Lazer: 5/30/2017 4:55:22 AMLost all credibility when you said that Bladedancer wasn't useful in PvE. Or did you forget the days where LFG was only looking for Bladedancers to run sword. The Super itself might not be useful against bosses, but the neutral game (QuickDraw, invisibility, and high agility)were very desirable.
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1 ReplyEdited by BOSS_TPH76: 5/30/2017 10:49:12 AMMeanwhile at Bungie HQ: "Yo...Luke" "Yo Deej...sup? "I am fine. Quick question. There is this guy on the forum asking for a buff to the Poledancer." "He is asking for a what?" "A buff." "What is a buff?" "I didn't know either so looked it up and it supposedly means that he wants us to make it stronger. What should we do?" "Hmmm...I don't know. It sounds very complicated. Have you asked Noseworthy?" "Yeah but he was too busy trying to figure out how to customize his subclass abilities." "I see. Well...I don't really know how we can make it stronger. But I suppose we can nerf Titan and Warlock supers. That would help." "Sounds like a great plan! I'll get right on it. Thanks buddy!" "No problem. Anytime. Just let me know when." "Sure will. See you later." "See you buddy. Ow....hold on Deej." "What?" "While you are at it....can you do one more thing?" "Yeah Luke?" "NERF FUSION RIFLES"
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2 RepliesNothing wrong with not having a ranged super... And Blade Dancer was one of the most commonly used (In my experience) super in PVE whether it was Raids or POE bosses back in the day being the almost safety net super when times got hard they could hide in a corner and go invis till people were free for a revive etc or even just self preservation. Then I thought maybe he meant PVP but that still doesnt make sense... Blade Dancer wrecks as well as other supers like Striker... So not really sure what you are on about...
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1 ReplyAre you seriously asking for a buff for something, when you don't even know how it works yet, for a game that's yet to be released? What a total bellend.
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4 RepliesEdited by Darklighter01: 5/23/2017 11:40:51 PMYou're making that judgement on 2 seconds of video of a game that you have never personally played? Calm down for a minute. Is this community so salty and pissy that we have to start complaining before the game even exists? Smh Great for PvP? Again, a game you haven't personally played Edit: Spelling
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I saw it on a video and I don't like it. 🙄 Have you played it? Well no, I was just watching a video on the YouTube but it looked weak. Scabs already crying and the closed beta isn't even anywhere near dropping yet 🙄. Gods how much will you scabs complain after the open beta comes out??? Ain't it your bed time child, where are your parents? Do they know there is a minor loose on the internet??
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7 RepliesThe friggin game is four months away and hunter mains are already crying
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That's a lot of complaints for a 3 second segment. I'm definitely going to be calling that class Poledancer from now on, though.
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1 Reply[i]I was expecting to see Bladedancer equipped. Saw Nightstalker. Let alone, 46 days played on your Hunter. 9 days played on your Warlock. 9 days played on your Titan. Your Hunter worries go noted. lol.[/i]
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2 RepliesNo the pussy hunter mains are crying I'm a hunter main and I'm waiting for the game to come out still to see how it plays and even if it doesn't play good you still won't see me bitching i promise you that
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Wait until you play the game! That clip is what, 2-3 seconds at best and already your crying out for it to be changed. You literally know nothing about it, how it performs, what other perks are available. Once the beta drops, you can all rage to your merry hearts content, as then your complaints will actually have merit and will be based on something factual.
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1 ReplyHonestly I've been hating on bungie for just reskinning Bladedancer, but then I realized I get to whack enemies with a pole.
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9 RepliesEdited by monkeydancer: 5/25/2017 5:01:20 PMWell said sir Don't forget the stupid shade step that reloads our gun YAY whoop whoop aren't we lucky! Much better than a healing pool or a barrier nope our gun reloads saving us half a second but still allowing us to be shot or trampled 😂
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1 ReplyOmg guys, let's judge heavily on how bad we believe D2 to be without ever actually playing it (heavy sarcasm )
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1 ReplyYou complain about the width, but have no idea if there's an alt version like all classes have. One ability could widen the spread at reduce dmg (which it realistic) or double the dmg in a smaller area. Your arguement fails.
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I like how you're complaining about Bladedancer 2.0, while Titans had a simple, but much beloved, bubble shield as a super all of year one. That when people have finally gotten better with it they remove it and give them a weaker void Hammer of Sol but with a shield instead. That can't even block another super! (1 Golden Gun shot kills the Titan blocking with it.) Wew lad, that really gets my ol' noggin' joggin'. [spoiler]Tl;dr Titans are getting "the short end of the stick".[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesAs a small side note, we don't know what else it actually does. We can see that it's a lateral piercing attack, but for all we know, it also has a vacuum effect that pulls enemies in, or chains from them, or detonates. Remember, original trailers from Destiny downplayed Striker and Voidwalker's supers.
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10 RepliesThe Hunters get stuck with the pathic subclasses. An example, in the TTK, we Hunters got stuck with a purple support bow, while the warlocks got OP emperor Palpatine and Titans got Chuck Norris with flaming hammers. The only Hunter class that is any good is the Gunslinger!! Bungie hates Hunters!! Titans are in the middle ground and Warlocks are bungie's favorite because they always get the better end of the stick!!!
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1 ReplyIf you main a hunter nothing has changed. We never had a sub class that was really PVE dominated besides night stalker. That's why so many people use hunters for pvp that's where they shine.
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4 RepliesEdited by You Stop That: 5/26/2017 3:50:56 PMLooks like it has a larger area, sort of like a Shotgun blast than a wave like in D1. Also Bladedancers in D1 are straight up the slippery class of the slippery class. Backstab, Fleetfooted, and Blink are the best. Your idea is basically the Lightning Grenade from Hell. Noice.
