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Edited by Lost Sols: 6/10/2017 7:23:58 PM
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#destinytruthcast Episode 48: With Great Power...

[quote]Downloadable Audio links: [b]SoundCloud[/b] https://soundcloud.com/oceans-of-canopy/dtc-episode-48-with-great-power [b]Podbean[/b] http://destinytruthcast.podbean.com/ [b]iTunes[/b] https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/destinytruthcast-destiny-podcast/id1101605804?mt=2[/quote] Welcome to episode 48 of the #destinytruthcast where you the community join us in talking all things Bungie and Destiny. Today RedWingGirl and I welcome bnet community guests Dragoon4290 and Kone19ps Today's topics include: -Meeting the guests -Iron Banner Mayhem -Is this the most hated meta yet? -With great power comes great responsibility (streamers, Bungie, influence and nerfs) -Favorite surprise weapons of AoT -Thoughts on vendor rotating stock -D2, Trials and endgame hardcore PvP -[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/226523802?sort=0&page=0]Post of the week 1[/url] -[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/226455616?sort=0&page=0]Post of the week 2[/url] -[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/226408797?sort=0&page=0]Post of the week 3[/url] -Favorite moments of the week -RAZE LIGHTER Once again thank you to Dragoon4290 and Kone19ps for joining us today and we thank you for listening and participating on the forums. We can be found on twitter @dstinytruthcast and online at www.destinytruthcast.com As always, if you'd like to be on a future podcast, message us and let us know your thoughts on the game and what you think would be an important topic to come on and discuss. We look forward to hearing from you and can't wait to hear more voices on the next episode :) [spoiler]Theme song: Convince Us Artist: Swell Album: Whenever You're Ready[/spoiler]

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  • Well I just can't be brotherd playing this iron banner I might be force to join my clan mates and play a game or two which I run hammers and fusion grenades for. The lower ranks are great, I love doing the unexpected like last iron banner being night-stalker and taking down the whole team on point b by myself with one grenade. But I hate this meta where everyone is using sidearm and fusion even in the lower ranks. I find that playstation is still meta like 7 out of 10 people will use the meta most of the time it depends on how much they want win and sometimes you get the afk wanker in the back who loves jerk himself off to he sounds of himself being killed. Cause guess what the rewards are rng you could just leave it on go in with a band on your Anglog stick and it still let you get the best rewards which is why we need placement rewards and staying in until the end marks. I personally I hate how the only one grenade where you get a certain kill is with is stickies and I live in hope that they will change it and make everything shine again. I hate limiting myself to subclass with stickies. most people keep blaming me saying I made the game this way by asking for nerfs which is wrong bungie made the game this way they choose to listen to the wrong people, where the ones at fault, not the nerf askers. If they listened to me, scope time would be nerfed, and a sway when moving while scope would of been added to the game. Trip mine would still be deadly, throwing knife would not been nerfed. We would still have 2 shots upon death with special ammo when we die with ammo and no shots if we use it all when die. So the nerfs I asked for are totally different from what we got. Did I ask for those a lot yes I did I ask for harder gameplay by slowing down snipers did we get it no so I'am not the problem. I have changed my way of playing. now I just one of those people who hold back, flank and place grenades in the best spot to get the best affect but now I m using fusion grenades instead of shotgun up close just cuase that's all I can do sometimes. I also just pick up green ammo now when ever I see even if I have full ammo I still pick it up so that others can't have it, I didn't used to play like this. Reroll does need to be bought back cause I can't even be brotherd to grind for that gun cause it's not worth the time getting that one roll I want when I have other things I would rather waste my time on. I agree that they need to get the players back into trails. one way would be to take the artifact out of the gold tear package cause that's why I stop playing. So sick of doing of that work getting tbagged etc and yet for all my trouble I get a 400 light artifact on all 3 characters again for the second weekend in a row of cause I'm going to say -blam!- grinding for a dot I'm going to play something else. I agree with you sols balanceing pvp just so streamers can have a easy life is stupid and sbmm was not all of the problem, fireteams with people from cross the world were also a problem with cause lag a lot of times. I love using the the100 using destiny own recruitment in the app is the worse. cause theirs no way to report the people who ignore the people who sign up to play and theirs no way to report the no shows or the ones who go on ahead and join another raid team, we need an auto update fire team thing for destiny if that can actually be made. mm for raids would not work cause of lanaguge barriers, afk players, checkpoint hoppers and abusive players the people who are just racist etc when there is no need to be for example I don't enter a party and start saying: what's up my n what the -blam!- are we doing to day? lets kill some whores. When something goes wrong I don't want someone going oh -blam!- you need to do this. Cause that is just wrong I don't want stuff like you must be French when cause only French pussyies play like that, i don't want oh he's gay let's kick him and I certainly don't want people harassing the girls in my party asking for email address and asking for a sex show I just want to play the game in a family environment with friends so as long as we have the option to kick and choose who we want to play with I'm happy if we lose that option I'm not playing anymore. My favourite moment was getting the vex.

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    • It was interesting listening to our guests this week. Turns out we all have a lot of similar thoughts when it comes to pvp

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      • Great topics. Bump for a later listen.

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        • Edited by RavenousLD3341: 5/8/2017 8:10:59 PM
          I really miss year 1 fusion rifles. As far as I'm concerned patch 1.1.1 was the beginning of the BS. That absolutely destroyed the game, and introduced us to the madness we see now. Bungie states over and over again that they want a longer TTK (which I'm assuming the primaries fit in) then have 2/3 of the weapon slots kill 33% faster. WHAT! WHAT IS THAT! I honestly believe that PvP wasn't in the original Joe Staten Destiny. The weapon balance feels really good there, I primarily use my primary, and special is for yellow bars, and my heavy is for yellow bars and Bosses. It feels pretty good there. In PvP it's a disaster. So that's why i believe the "Original" Destiny was scrapped. They were thinking "Man this is great Joe! Ok.... Let's see the competitive multiplayer modes that we are known for." "huh? PvP? I didn't plan on that" "Ok make it... :D" "no" "Ok..... We are scrapping Destiny get out" *waits* "NOW that he's gone, let's make some PvP" "Won't fit on the disk" "Remove the story" "Ok it fits now" Seriously..... Give me a Small Arms weekly Crucible Playlist. Just 1 time. Let's see what it's like.

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          • Good job as always.

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            • Edited by Orpheus49: 5/8/2017 10:12:04 PM
              Im glad im working with kone and kielron to spread the word on just how different the meta is at different skill levels, there really is a BIG difference It was brought up in the cast that, a good player will make anything work...... Im sorry but thats just not true at all. I can work an auto prefectly, they dont require precision like a handcannon, however id rather use a handcannon, simply because that gun is actually competitive Its impossible to ask us to use something else and make the claim that it will work just because are good, since so much playstyles/guns have been nerfed to uselessness. When i get 100% accuracy with an auto or a handcannon, the handcannon will always win out. When the enemy is extremely good in close quarters, thrynare going to use a sidearm since shotguns are extremely inconsistent. Players will use whatever is the best gun since they know they can reach those killing times with ease, thanks to their aim and abilities. Anything else is a handicap, a big one, and thats not fun. Its to the point where i have to use the meta just to compete because those guns. They are the only weapons that i can use and beat people at my skill level because those guns actually work. Its definitely not because im not as skilled as i say, if that where the case, i would have regressed in these metas due to lack of adapting. Its just the fact that those weapons are all you can use, anything else is asking to die Go into rumble right now, or trials, and try to use something other than the meta, and you will die. This is the only way anyone can see it. As kone stated, im at a point where i am matchmade into 6v6 where it is just as present, and it's not fun being forced to use it. I want to use what i want, i dont wanna be forced to use handcannons since thats all that works. Dont nerf them, just buff everything else that got ruined Good listen, and thanks for spreading the word of our project Kone

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              • Edited by King: 5/9/2017 3:16:00 PM
                The reason the meta is even more emphasized on these days is most likely because the weapons are so trash. There isn't a single good weapon in the hierarchy any more. Anyone who plays Destiny PvP at this time is in my honest opinion an idiot. It's dead. No skill gap. No logic. No diversity. No roles. It's over boys. They pushed me and they pushed me too far. As much as I love this game (more than anything ever) I can't take it any more. The "good" players are casuals and it only gets worse and worse. Y1 is the only option for me to return. Let them hit the switch and go YOLO on us with an extreme update bringing back diversity by making almost everything OP as -blam!-, because that's the only way to make Destiny balanced. The guys on the LIVE team aren't good enough to balance Destiny properly so Y1 is the way to go. Period. EDIT: Destiny isn't comparable to Halo since Special was meant for standard loadout. Heavy weapons were the "power weapons" in Destiny. Besides, they are still using context-lacking statistics to patch the game. That's the fastest way to ruin a game.

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                • Will Listen to it tonight Keep Up the Good Work!!!

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                  • Whoa. For a second there it seemed like RWG suggested Xbox players are more skilled, and by virtue of most streamers being PS4 players, nerfs were mainly the fault of PS4 players. I must have not heard that right. To Lost Sols's point on skill being the primary determinant of weapon choice, I disagree. I chalk that up to a few of other things: 1. Resistance to frustration. We all get frustrated when learning something new, but some can see the big picture and some can't. Those with a low frustration threshold will go the most expedient path. 2. Just want to win. Some players are not interested in anything but winning, so it will always be the path of least resistance. To some, winning is everything, no matter how it is achieved. Why work hard when you can mash the "Easy" button? 3. Some look beyond the win and truly want to be challenged. This would be the very select, the very few. They wouldn't need bounties, rewards, or recognition of any kind - they have an internal locus that drives them to know where the limits are. These are rare individuals.

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                    • Thanks for having me. It was a good time, and always nice to meet local players. [spoiler]Do I really sound like that?[/spoiler]

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                      • Edited by CatMan: 5/9/2017 3:05:44 AM
                        Listening now Edit: Liked those D2 Trials Ideas. I completely agree, keep it, but make it its own thing. Separate it from regular pvp and pve balances. You wouldn't hear a peep out of me. Or just remove it Im fine with either. About the influence Streamers and youtube have their viewer. It's defiantly a thing. Not necessarily ps or xb users, but streamers in general . New players don't know whats good so they use what they see their fav streamer or youtuber using and say what they say. Hive minds and its not good. Part of the reason I think bungie invited a lot of those players too the reveal is because of the influence they have on their viewer and it it's quite genius. LostWing, if you guys are going to the show, give us a report on the good and the bad please. Don't try and soften the blows, hit us with the hard truths. Don't put cream or sugar in my coffee, ill take...Hot water lol. Because Im like 80% on the side of not buying. We've gone to far with "balances". I don't want see meta in D2 (there will be but if its fixed don't break it). Very good show this week. Edit: ToO imho, is why balance sucks right now, An artifact got nerfed because of it....An artifact.

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                        • I remember before trials when dark below was out somewhere in February, I notice no one really use last word, thorn, & hawkmoon until trials forced that type of meta. I remember it was very diverse and it seem like forums where generally clean until thorn last word and hawkmoon killed them off from going to lighthouse

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                          • Good discussion about Trials and the meta. Y'all should listen to this episode. It's urgent, urgent, urgent.......

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                            • Bump for later

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                              • Thanks for including our friend Bill in your podcast, but more importantly for understanding the positive effects that this game and community can have

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                                • Thanks again for having me!!

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                                  • I'm slightly surprised you didn't talk about the few post that have been popping up asking why bungie doesn't allow people to name and shame. Also has anyone else noticed that there seem to be a steady climb in crying wolf posts about cheating.

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                                    • Get ready for the golden gun nerf cries with mayhem iron banner because unfortunately people will take it to seriously

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                                      • Bump!

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                                        • bump!

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                                        • Its my boy ice cream kone!

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                                        • Edited by Orpheus49: 5/8/2017 6:43:28 PM
                                          XD 6 minutes in and we are already talking stickies This is gonna be goo Edit: what is this rain everyone speaks of? Do you mean dryness and sun? Thats all over the place in California

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                                          • Bump. Will listen later but my answer to anything PVP related is this. "Rock OP please nerf. Paper is balanced. Yours truly scissor"

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                                            • Bump. this is for sure the meta I have hated the worst. I didnt think I'd ever fnd another one besides the year 2 sniper meta that I'd hate worse than that ....... but this one has topped the list. I just find pvp very flat and boring now. a 30fps black ops 3 with worse connections. I hated black ops 3 haha. funny that the streamers were the ones calling for an end to special dominance. now they are all coming out saying they hate this meta and want the old style back. as you say with great power ...... pity they have so often abused theirs so that its got to this stage. great podcast :)

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