Cozmo please tell the Devs to do this [b]now [/b]
Let's make all weapon type great again and not only 1 or 2. Suros, Mida, Messenger, Red Death, Hawkmoon, Doctrine, Clever Dragon... BUFF them all! Reverse all nerfs to different classes too. I main a Warlock so reverse Viking Funeral nerf etc..
[b]KEEP[/b]
Hand Cannons better accuracy in air plus the little ROF increase for low ROF Pulse etc..
[b]Edit: Since a lot of people don't understand I am simply saying keep all buffs including HC. Make Clever Dragon gret again among other things![/b]
[b]OUT[/b]
Get rid of all range nerfs on HC.
Get rid of Hunter nerfs.
Get rid of Warlock Stormcaller nerfs etc..
[b]JUST GET RID OF ALL OTHER NERFS![/b]
Problems solved for MOST players. Now we can have fun in Destiny (A [b]GAME[/b])and go from there?
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I play this game for [u]FUN [/u]because Destiny to me is [u]NOT [/u]a job like a lot of streamers or streamers wanna be. Most of these nerfs over the past 2+ yrs are just making the game less [u]FUN[/u] and that's why I say keep the buffs and get rid of the nerfs.
Anyone that doubt me saying I play this game for fun or my opinion does not matter, just look at my stats. I am one of those that HELP players get to the light house by getting killed most but I still play. The latest patch [b]MADE THE GAME NOT FUN[/b]! My stats: Top 1% in 13 Crucible categories and among them DEATHS :) I have only made it to the lighthouse ONCE and that's OK because like I said I play this thing for fun.
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To anyone who can't read everything before commenting, I am not saying buff Hand Cannon. I am saying keep all buffs and reverse ALL NERFS. Basically I want Bungie to make all weapon type "GOOD" again. Clever Dragon will get HC rounds together with ammo back. I want Suros to be godly again. I want Mida to get HC rounds again. I want Doctrine to be godly again. I want Messenger to be godly again ETC.. Understand???
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Thanks for posting your thoughts. Hand cannons are pretty crazy accurate now. I think making them do full damage at Scout Range would eliminate any need for Scout Rifles... or any other guns. That is just my opinion and I don't make the decisions. :) But I will let the Sandbox team know that you would like to see some changes to Hand Cannons, Hunters, and Warlocks removed.
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Edited by brian the psion: 2/25/2017 7:58:13 AMThe issue is that they don't consider what perks actually appear on certain weapon types and the arche-types within them. Matador shouldn't ever have been able to gain access to range perks outside of say small bore as that type of shotty has no need for it. Now if you were to talk about a dry rot ir low impact type shotties they would have need of them to make them viable at similar ranges.(for "balance" this is the goal) If this is done to shotties then [b]all[/b] shotties get a chance to be used. The other specials don't suffer from such a split in sub types so I would need to think deeper about this,
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Edited by InTheZone: 2/25/2017 12:31:53 AMautos in year 1 would make them comparable to fast rof pulses pre-latest nerf, so those are balanced. keep hand canons where they're at right now because they are OP compared to the above weapons in current state, but with the above changes that would put them on par give mida HC and leave scouts alone, they're for long distance and they're useful for their roles add NLB flinch, add random flinch to all snipers put special ammo and respawn with ammo how it was pre-latest patch leave sidearms alone give us year 1 pre-nerf jellyhorn, give us pre-nerf truth give us year 1 pre-nerf fusions EVERYTHING would be great and this is just tackling weapons. I'm not going into subclasses as I don't really use all of them enough to determine what needs what. If anything twlight garrison needs a nerf to boost speed/flying. I do use a titan a lot, so I can say that. might as well delete useless exotics if they're never going to be made viable as well. Say bye to 4th horseman, hardlight, zen meteor, dragon's breath. Delete and compensate us for useless exotic gear as well.
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This, for so many reasons, is just such a horrible idea. But, sure, why not go ahead and break the game...
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Range nerfs on handcannon was necessary, they functioned as scout rifles for most maps. The buff to accuracy was needed though. Imo handcannon are in a good place right now
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You do realize reversing all nerfs is still a major buff? The nerfs are put in because it is out of balance with the rest of the game world. Just my thoughts
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Hand cannons are absolutely godly and you still want them better? They are the best primary in the game.
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I'm all for buffing the sh** out of everything but honestly with the new hit registration on handcannons the range dropoff is needed.
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No, Hand Cannons still need more damage falloff.
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Edited by UNTAMEDUNBORN: 2/24/2017 2:03:20 AMSeriously...how is this getting upvotes? Who is on these forums?!? WHO? *Sigh* OP doesn't even realize he is getting trolled by Cozmo, and 40+ people decided to reply to Cozmo with "About timeeee dood"? Someone needs to delete this part of the website. My soul bleeds. Chiefdemon159, ya, listen to him. Chiefdemon159, he's our man...
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Edited by blade329: 2/23/2017 4:21:35 PMI personally dislike nerfs of just about any kind. I don't use NLB at all and I get killed it all the time. I say DON'T NERF it!!! That's right, I'm against nerfing good gear whether I like them or not. Bungie needs to stop caving to these serial complainers, because it doesn't make a difference. They will still complain no matter what, because they blame the gear for their problems. There will always be gear for them to point the finger at.
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[quote]Cozmo please tell the Devs to do this [b]now [/b] [b]KEEP[/b] Hand Cannons better accuracy in air plus the little ROF increase for low ROF Pulse etc.. [b]OUT[/b] Get rid of all range nerfs on HC. Get rid of Hunter nerfs. Get rid of Warlock Stormcaller nerfs etc.. [b]JUST GET RID OF ALL OTHER NERFS![/b] Problems solved for MOST players. Now we can have fun in Destiny (A [b]GAME[/b])and go from there?[/quote] You..... are an idiot
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YA and nerf fusion rifles!
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You get Y1 Blade I get Y2 Sunbreaker [spoiler];)[/spoiler]
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S0UND5 L1K3 A TR3AT...! ST0P CRY1NG L1K3 A L1TTL3 G1RL.
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I didn't know Cosmo was a dev.
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So you like the Titan nerfs? Ok.
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chief, i respect your opinion on the game. putting it in the public spotlight and making cozmo write a vague "its not my problem" response has made you the real MVP
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BUMP chea
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[quote]It'd be nice if Bungie undid every nerf, ever... & let us upgrade any weapons to Max light.[/quote]
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A very interesting balance suggestion But allow me to provide a counterargument 1. Removing hand canon bloom and giving them accuracy would result in them being over used. The reason behind this is that they have the fastest time to kill, while also requiring the least percentage of precision shots for optimal time to kill 2. lets now consider the time to kill of those unnerfed weapons Many would assume the vex and suros to reign supreme in such a situation however I feel this would not be the case. Weapons like the last word and thorn would be almost unstoppable due to their two shot capability, which would put us in a situation we just left where there were 1 or 2 weapons that were used very frequently
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When nobody had exotics & nothing was nerf back then....I miss destiny when it first released 😓😧
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Edited by bhdreams1996: 2/23/2017 11:34:25 AMBungie: oh you still talking bout hunters? Next patch they won't have the ability to Jump anymore and the Knives are also too op because you can throw it across the map so thank you guardian for your respond. :) [spoiler]sadly they won't ever listen to what we want.....:([/spoiler]
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bring heavy back .