I purchased a Xim4 and gave it a go, it last 2 days and I returned it. Give me a pad any day, I just found it too hard to move around the map.

Everyone is using Hori mouse and keyboards, their hand cannon shota basically never misses, and nothing beats hand cannons at mid range. That is OP and cheating in my point of view. I was gonna buy one for around 100usd but realized it was too cheap. Now i am getting pounded by them in trials

I use xim 4 with a red Dragon mechanical keyboard and razor deathadder essential mouse. Yes keeping track of your target is easier, but stay out of close range lol. To be effective with M & K, you can't go higher than a 1/2 ratio. That means 1 inch mouse movement equals 2 inch movement on screen. Which around 6-7 sensitivity on a controller. Most pro players run a 1/1 ratio because it's more intuitive. Yes it is possible to bypass the games sensitivity.... and by a crazy amount. Imagine a 30 sensitivity on COD BO3 (It's possible to do with xim 4). However ppl don't up the sensitivity too high because you things like jitter which can cause headaches and hellish strain on the eyes, not to mention skipping pixels. Which means accurately shooting anything is next to impossible. Using M & L has it's ups and downs, make no mistake. It's just a preference. Like some the Xbox controller over the PlayStation controller and vice versa. To anyone who says using a mouse is like cheating are either jealous or simply ignorant. People that have played and fps on keyboard and mouse know the pro and cons and would say it's fine. There's a reason it isn't against the Xbox ToS lol.

From what I've read in past topics, aquiring the target may be easier with a m&k but it doesn't make the cursor/reticle move any faster than the games sensitivity setting allows.

[quote]I know nothing about keyboard and mouse in destiny. Im hearing alot about people proudly saying they use a keyboard and mouse in pvp. Im not trying to start an argument but im trying to understand if this is legit and not against ps4 or bungie rules. Kb+m users always say the movement is the same so they dont have an advantage but doesnt a mouse allow u to aquire your target much faster and stay on target more consistently? Is it not just a point and shoot setup with a mouse cuz i dont know? On controllers u have to really finesse the sticks in unison so it is tricky and takes a ton a practice to be good at it. I have no interest in using a kb+m setup but im baffled by it because Im hearing it is a major advantage in pvp and the people using it say its not sooo...please enlighten me. First off Is it legal to use in Destiny and on PS4? Second How does it give an advantage and/or why does it not? Explain how the shooting mechanic works? In my eyes if it is point and click shot than that seems like a massive advantage alone. From arguments ive read about it seems it may be a huge advantage against console controllers. LMK...educate me please. Im a controller user and always will be but Id like to know what im facing in the crucible cuz sometimes some guardians seem unreasonably good...lol[/quote] Yes. It's allowed. It doesn't break the terms of service of either PSN or xboxlive. Also: even if it wasn't allowed it is completely undetectable because it uses a normal controller as a translator. So it's a moot point really.

Destiny is not programmed to take advantage of a keyboard and mouse, so anything that you use that allows you to connect a keyboard and mouse won't function as well as a PC game that is designed to use them. The demos that I've seen of keyboard and mouse in use on destiny made it look like it was extremely difficult to do some of the most basic tasks.