I'm not a big fan of nerfs unless the weapon is actually OP. I'm wondering who is having this much trouble countering Matador. It's just easy to use, but it can be beat by applying skill to other weapons and being smart about range and environment.
If it was impossible to counter, then I'd see room for discussion, but it isn't.
Year 1 OP weapons were 100x more ridiculous than this lil shotgun.
FYSA, I'm not a Matador fanboy. Bungie could decide to cut all shotties from the game, and I wouldn't care.
[spoiler]TL;DR stop bitchin' and play the game[/spoiler]
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Dont buff shotguns pls.. buff primaries
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Obviously a potato launcher
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Sorry, but you're exactly what's wrong with this game, and why the matador seems 'OP'. The matador functions exactly how a shotgun should, and it's NO where near overpowered. The problem is that every other damn gun in this game sucks, and when paired with the movement speed and close quarters maps, no one has any choice or counter to shotguns. Stop bitching about stuff being OP. I'm so damn tired of you idiots ruining the balance in this game .
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Matador itself is easy to counter. The fast and random movements coupled with very few primaries able to gun down a shotgun before they reach you is not. Find that archetype extremely easy to use because of the movement abilities in the game.
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I think they should give the matador the range of a sniper, with the damage of a rocket launcher. Then we shall see if it needs further buffs. Small steps, we don't want to make it too strong.
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Do the baby mapadors one shot from across the map?
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The shotty is definitely a powerful gun but I really don't care. Even as a mediocre crucible player, I don't have a problem countering it. Just a matter of learning the maps and getting comfortable with your play style.
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I think your making it difficult I think you take a special journey with Tolland and you go on this massive story line to corrupt the Matador with the darkness like thorn. Now here is the twist you find out its already been corrupted so Tolland hands you duct tape and you strap year 1 thorn to the bottom of it and when you pull the trigger it shoots both and you use up & down on dpad to change if you want single fire, 3 round burst, or full auto but you gain intrinsic perks shot package, range finder, rifle barrel, final round (every round). It is now upgraded to exotic which you can equip a second exotic while this can be placed in either primary or secondary and regens ammo every 5 seconds. But this might be a nerf so idk.....
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Shotguns are fine. But why hasn't my melee power not buffed and why can't I snipe with my fists yet? Lmao seriously shotguns are fine, a little inconsistent at times. And I don't use shotguns that much. I only have reinforced barrel on my matador.
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I liked the allow it to act autonomosly as a drone. even though it got less votes.
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Shotguns are still really inconsistent. And id honestly would rather see all other special weapons be buffed then a shotty be nerfed. I think the range on shotguns is fair as is now and have actually countered them well lately with a havoc pigeon. Can you imagine how pissed people get about that? Lol
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Re name it Mapador 27
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Edited by KaptainKrakenZz: 1/23/2017 11:14:31 PMI use matador simply because I've been shot gunning since the beginning of the game. I just enjoy the faster paced game play. Also stop saying hat shotguns take no skill.. That's crap. I think they should buff back snipers also. Shotguns and snipers used to be about equal. But now I feel shotguns hand out the slight advantage.
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I'm not a fan of nerfs at all ,In my opinion they are never the answer. However, something needs to be done to combat shotgun range. My preference would be to bring other archetypes up, but if they absolutely can't do that for whatever reason and can only nerf range for shotties, it would be hard to argue against it.
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An ideal Matador nerf: When you pull the trigger, a barrel appears from the guns stock and blows your face off.
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Wish people cared about primaries as much as shotguns and snipers
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When equipped Matador will perform an orbital strike attack across entire Crucible population. All match participants will be forced to stay in the game screen while it tallies all the deaths and destruction it caused.
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It's the best shotgun in the game, but the crazy players on this board want it nerfed. Then they will complain about weak guns in the next sentence. There's no pleasing these guys.
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Give it Wolfpack Rounds.
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It needs to be able to shoot through time. "I just got hit by a shot that scrub fired three weeks from now!!" "I'm gonna fire a shot to kill a scrub two months from now!! Augh- I think I just mapped myself!!!!"
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no linked account = muted
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It should get a scope
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I would like it to kill guardians in future matches. Can that happen?
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Add a scope. Then you don't need any other weapon!
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I have to ask because this is another post where the author has no visible characters or platforms. How do you make your profile invisible?
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With shoe polish and a cloth.