{{
`${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? `#${standardizeBungieGlobalCode(userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode)}` : ""}`}}
{{getUserClans()}}
1/21/2017 12:36:54 PM
20
Shotguns themselves aren't the problem...
The reason why shotguns are so overused is because how easy it is to clear gaps between 2 players and also how the maps are structured.
I mean for example in Halo multiplayer maps are more open and gunfights weren't happening in CQC.
Also movement in Halo was also slower. In Halo it took time to move around the map. In destiny it takes like 10 seconds to get from game start to get to the enemy spawn.
How can this be fixed?
1) Larger maps with not so small corridors.
2) How ofter does this happen to you? You see enemy with shotgun he starts running/gliding/jumping towards you while you start shooting at him with your primary and the end result is you are dead and he/she survives with the slightest amount of health.
In my opinion fix to this should be some kind of movement penalty if you are being shot multiple times with a primary. For example in that case you wouldnt be able to double jump, glide, or thrust anymore. (This would be like flinch that sniper rifles have, but only for shotguns)
This wouldn't make shotguns any worse or make primaries better it would only stop those shotgun rushers. Which is the real problem
Sorry for long text and for any spelling mistakes.
And thanks for reading.
What are your opinions?
-
Then it would become a amatuer sniper game for people who fail at battlefield and sniper elite. Every map should have open areas for snipers but also CQC areas. What would be interesting is to see a game mode where your health doesn't regen at all. At least if you get 3 hits at a rusher they'll only be a one shot kill.
-
Maybe if every other weapon type wasn't nerfed to uselessness, there wouldn't be so many shotgun users. I mean shotguns a already trash so I guess nerf them and I can add all shotguns to the list of special weapons I dismantle on sight.
-
Just reset all of it. remove all buffs and nerfs. And don't listen to anyone whose account is below 6 years old.
-
Shotguns are a symptom of the disease that is nerfs. Do not try to treat the symptom, try to cure the disease.
-
When you use fusion rifles and laugh at shotgunners and actually congratulate them when they kill you.
-
IMO the only issue is the god rolled 1-3 shotguns. Shotguns should only 1hk from point blank. I'm frustrated but not actually angered when someones crouching round a corner and i run straight into them, im angered when i'm back peddling or at fusion/sidearm range attempting to win the engagement and im one shotted from that absurd range.
-
2 RepliesI have a poor KD and only play iron banner since ttk came out and they nerfed stuff pretty hard. I played nearly every IB and I'm telling ya as a guy who has seen everything from beta to current time: the nerfers are the problem. Good players are good with any number of guns. 1. This is inherently an unbalanced pvp game. It was built for pve but to keep it alive more and more attn went to pvp and to appease the people whining. 2. If you want a measure of pure talent in pvp then a peer to peer (lol) system w no stock loadout is gonna tell you jack shit. No one should take it seriously is what I'm saying. 3. Most important: pvp amd pve stats on EVERYTHING need to by COMPLETELY SEPARATE! Remember how fun the guns were in pve? Shotguns really aren't that good now, among many other (nearly all)guns/ perks/abilities etc due to "cross-nerfing" *fwiw i saw many types of shotty in this iron banner. None of them were "OP". Also, i use plan c in pvp. So I'm seeing it fairly objectively i think My KD is bad. .99 last i checked. Just saving you time. Idk what average is in destiny. I'd assume 1.0 buy that's not necessarily true.
-
3 RepliesLess special ammo plus faster ttk for primaries
-
2 RepliesOnly thing thats OP in destiny is the communities complaints. And its usually the lowest tier players complaining that everything kills them. You already fuked the MM with this shit sbmm and yet you still complain from dying to some1 who is as shit as you. NERF the complainers cause they are the ones that are OP Get good and learn to play or fuking quit......... You will always complain no matter what kills you and at what stage the meta is. Even with full fuking balance there will always be scrubs like you complaining Im tired of this shit I wish bungie would just get rid this forum for good cause all it has promoted is nothing good GET FUKING GOOD or DONT FUKING PLAY.
-
1 ReplyThe problem is the special ammo crate.
-
3 RepliesSaid this before and I'll say it again, the fact there is no stopping power in this game is retarded.
-
I matched against MyNameIsByf this evening for the Bungie Bounty. The scores were even so that the next kill on either side would decide the winner. I got matador'ed out of the blue. Goddamn meta!
-
6 RepliesEdited by t1Chill: 1/22/2017 9:09:42 PMOnly reason it's too easy to clear gaps is because when these kids see a shotty warrior, they just sit there and cry and complain about the shotgun, instead of actually trying to kill them.
-
Edited by NegativeCycle: 1/23/2017 10:38:28 PMThe real problem isn't shotguns at all. In fact they are in the single worst place ever in this game. The problem is that primary weapons have been nerfed to death there is nothing to fear from just rushing in. If I see someone at close mid range using a primary weapon I just bum rush them. I know they more than likely can't kill me before I close the gap and if they try to swap to their own shotgun I'll still likely kill them before they are ready because of how long it takes to switch weapons after the nerf to shotgun equip speed. Their only real option is to get lucky with a clutch grenade or run away and try to reset the engagement. That's just dumb, primary weapons need to be viable. They need to be brought up a few notches.
-
Its the people. larger maps leads to camping and as you said Halo maps are open, but most people weren't camping. People were still running around hunting for kills
-
I was a shotgunner I loved the rush so now I know a ton of angles they come from so they can say hi to my saladins vigil
-
1 ReplyI usually hate shotgun rushers but i figured out how to cope. Stick to the open areas of the map. Yeah you're boned if you get into small corridors and tight spaces. But yesterday i put on my semi tryhard pants and decided rather than run around brainless I'd actually try to think while i game. Usually i try not to do that; but i put grabbed my monte carlo and havoc pigeon and actually outgunned a few shotgun rushers. The trick is you have to wait for them. Figure out which position they are going to come from. Let them see you on their radar and then back away as far as you can. They'll think you are running try to chase you and as soon as they come in light em up. Worked really well in last exit tv room for me.
-
12 RepliesSeeing that clevor dragon kills in .8 seconds and a sidearm kills in .7..... the shotgun rusher is usually dead before they have a chance to think about closing a gap.
-
Well either that, or primaries need to be stronger, and balanced.
-
I like this idea, but I reckon primaries should be able to slow people down in close quarters who are running towards you. Or some sort of knock back. For instance, i'm pretty sure a shot from a giant -blam!-ing hand cannon would knock anyone back a good few feet. Applies to every other primary I think too.
