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1/17/2017 2:44:04 PM
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Buff snipers

I have been taking a break from this topic because no one here ever likes to listen to reason and always jumps to conclusions without hearing the facts. This is my last attempt, SO STOP BEING A BUNCH OF JACK A**** AND LISTEN UP!!! Yes, I think snipers need buffs. There are two problems with them that were made because of the shotgun babies don't want any competition. The first problem is the hit detection. I think bungie overdid the nerfs on the aim assist. There will always, ALWAYS, be a time when I know I hit someone in or have the sights directly placed between the eyes, and the target either goes about unscathed or that headshot only counts as a body shot. It is really starting to get annoying now and I can't believe that people are seeing nothing wrong about this! Second, the flinch for when you are hit while ads. Say what you shotgun babies like, the flinch is god awful. I'm fine with having a bit of flinch to throw you off, but this is insane! We might as well have our scopes flung all the way to the sky with how much flinch there is. At least reduce some of it so it is set to a more reasonable standard. So, did you actually read and come up with a reasonable opinion? Or did you just rush head first to the comments and start sending hate messages?

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  • I think sniper rifles just need more ammo on the crucible as much as shotguns. That alone would be great

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  • I agree, but when you start talking about something and call people babies for using a competitive edge that everyone can get, that's probably why no one wants to listen to you.

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    • Please don't

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    • Snipers are fine the way they are, all the changes did is weed out those who thought they could sniper but actually can't without AA

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    • Since when did shotguns and snipers become each others competition? I don't know about you, but if I'm running around with a shotgun, I'm not trying to get in a fight with that sniper across the map. Same as if I'm running around with a sniper, and I see a shotgun wielding warrior charging me, I really don't want go engage him with my sniper.

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    • No amount of buffing is going to help when lag is involved. To me, Snipers shouldn't win those long range gunfights with a scout/pulse rifle. The whole point of being sniper is concealment and surprise. You are supposed to take down your opponent who is unaware while hiding from the shadows. If he sees you then you SHOULD have a disadvantage, period. "...But....I want to get 30 kills a match with my No Land Beyond rifle." LOL. Of course, you do. You want a sniper rifle that acts like scout rifle so you can dominate. That's ridiculous and it shouldn't be allowed. Besides, the issue with snipers isn't really the guns.....it's the maps. These maps overwhelmingly favor closer range fights....a la shotguns.

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    • I snipe a lot, I mean in 6s, trials, sweats and the flinch was needed to weed out people who ads for any amount of time again any amount of time. The sniper functions in its highest form when the aiming and shooting happen moments apart. Practice those quick scopes I'm still thriving with my sniper

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    • Gotta be honest, I've always been more of a shotgun player, so when the snipers got nerfed I was happy. Not just as a shotgunner, but as someone who couldn't win gun fights with snipers because after 29 head shots, they were still able to see me in their scopes. When it comes to flinch, I really think it should be weapon dependant. Some weapons in this game do cause huge amounts of ads flinch, and could be toned down.

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      • The nerf showed who the great snipers really are. This isnt infinite warfare where a sniper can one body shot kill someone.

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        • yeah the crosshairs on someone but it doesnt do damage, happens too much

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        • Nope. Take away special ammo drops. One box per match. Or if you die, you lose all special ammo and keep special spawns the same. Simple. Trials? Same scenario but each round is restarts and only one box. No more campers, jug shotty, blink shotty, 360 no scopes, etc.

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        • Getting shot with your eye to a scope SHOULD have a hell of a lot of flinch. Sorry they took the crutch away now time to adapt.

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          • I've seen the same issues with the hit detection myself

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          • I have never noticed any issue with hit detection myself. I think the flinch is fine. A sniper isn't a weapon you want in a gun fight. It's a weapon you want to get the first, and only show with. That being said, I find the whole, sniper v/s shotgun debate shows a bigger issue. Snipers are not the counter to shotguns, or vice versa. To me it shows the issue of weak primaries that so many people are all in an uproar over the weapon in their special slot, because they feel it's the only weapon viable to use. Don't get me wrong, special weapons should be strong, but only in special situations. Right now they are too easy to use because primaries are too weak to punish them.

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          • [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/220226167]Snipers take more skill....so please make them easier to use again[/url] Opinion negated due to the salty insults to shotgun users. Why do you feel you should remain accurate AT ALL while taking fire. If you're ADS and any incoming fire comes in it should detract you from trying to maintain your aim. The thought of being able to continue to try to get accurate shots off while under fire is just arrogant. You got used to a broken mechanic in Y2 an now you miss your crutch because most of those people didn't actually have any gun skill. Have fun with your Zero Upvoted post having any impact.

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            • Yes. Let's make them primaries again. Sure. #satire

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            • So what is sounds like is... you can't snipe and want snipers to become a crutch again. I'm all for a sniper buff, but the only buff they need is handling.

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            • They need to fix the flinch and that's about it, I'm fine with the aim assist

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            • I seem to hit head shots just fine (a chin shot isn't a headshot). The flinch is pretty bad though which is sometimes annoying.

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              • I think the sniper flinch is fine, but I feel weapons with lower impact and higher ROF should cause less flinch per bullet.

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                • I agree that the flinch nerf was needed, but bungie went overboard for no reason. Since they nerfed snipers, only some snipers are being used now. Is that the diversity bungie wants? Every nerf has lowered diversity. I wish they could get that through their dense heads.

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                  • The hit detection, I agree with you it is frustrating. However, the flinch was needed. I love to shotgun, mainly because sniping in boring for me. As a result I rely on my primary to deal with snipers. Before the nerf, snipers could eat bullets and still killed me consistently. It was frustrating. The nerf was needed. What you need to realize that sniping is not about standing in gunfire, and shooting headshots. Its about quick movements, surprising, and getting the pick. The flinch you are getting is good since you are engaging someone in a poorly and they are pressuring you.

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                    • Nope

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                      • I think snipers are balanced. I can beat them with a pulse/scout, but if theyre skilled and can deal with the flinch, they'll kill me with 1 shot.

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