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12/15/2016 5:19:04 AM
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If shotguns get nerfed Im quitting. Shotguns aren't the problem, primaries are too weak.
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  • Primaries really don't need a buff! What do you want then? Two shot kills with all hand cannons. Three hits with scouts? Primaries are absolutely fine. I often get most kills with primaries, not secondaries. I find a lot of the time some one will be hard scoping down a lane. A shotgunner will sneak down a side passage then get right in their face with a shotgun kill. And everyone blames the shotgun as being op. Blame the player being better than you. Not the gun

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  • I disagree. I don't want 2 shot hand cannons, I want each primary archetype to be how it was at its peak then slightly tone the ones that are too strong from there (talking about specific guns not the blanket nerfs bungie is so used to.)

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  • Sneak? So you can't look at an ever constant radar? I feel that's a "you" problem more so than anything else... Now, when a gun performs absolutely inconsistently across the board (For example: Hand Cannons) then there's a weapon issue. The only gun archetype with a decent TTK and a consistent reliability is the High Rate of fire / Low impact pulse rifles. That's another gun issue. All gun archetypes should he reliable and useable. Take a look at update 1.4 for The Division. There really was no clear-cut weapon dominating the PvP scene. An LVOA or G36-C could perform just as well as the Navy MP5 / Aug which were on par with The M60 LMG. Snipers were a bit weak, but still fit in their class. Shotgun builds hurt and were very dominant up close, but only within close distance as they should be. With the right plays, the better player would win. This is not the case in Destiny, as a worse player with a pulse will outperform a better player using a Hand Cannon soley because one is just that much better.

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  • Primary weapons are definitely too weak but being mapped by a shotgun is bull!! They need to fix the lack of damage drop off

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  • That's not true! There's this one primary that's still really good. [spoiler]It's called Universal Remote[/spoiler]

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  • [quote]primaries are too weak[/quote] Just because it's in the first slot doesn't mean it's weak. Buff all primaries and nothing changes. [spoiler]Clever Dragon is the most notorious weapon right now. Primary.[/spoiler]

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  • shotguns are fine. primaries are fine. people are just idiots and underestimate themselves. the guns are fine. the people are cancerous.

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  • See you next year then.

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  • And speed and maneuverability of classes w certain exotics/abilities make shotguns seem op....but they are not op....some players are really good at out smarting, out maneuvering, or out playing u. Also, map awareness or map positioning is a great way to get killed by shotgun, and people just blame the gun. NO, it's probably one of these 2 things.

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  • Edited by Axsios: 12/15/2016 3:57:01 PM
    100% agree.

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  • Edited by Desolator0: 12/15/2016 3:15:38 PM
    Crutch spotted

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  • I have twice as many primary kills as shotty kills 🖒

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  • Shoutguns are a huge problem... primaries are in a perfect zone with a few on the edges that need tweaking. Think of TTK... this isn't COD. We all want gunfights and time to react. Currently the only nerfs to primaries needed are to high rate pulses... make those 4 burst kills... then buff up high impacts ARs. Once you tweak shotguns, the game will be perfect.

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  • They're not a problem at all, bud.

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  • Haha... yea, right.

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  • Please enlighten me. I would love to read a comment that wasn't filled with closed minded bias.

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  • Then just search my archives.

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  • It's exactly what I thought it'd be.

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  • I agree, don't mind the handful of haters against that sort of thinking in this forum, they are all about one shot kill weapons because they suck.

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  • Exactly... the real fun is in the gun battle... what's the point if the first one who shoots always kills? This isn't COD for COD casuals.

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  • Exactly.

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  • Asking for a buff to primary weapons is crutching ohk weapons? Also the vast majority of the community wants a primary buff, you're the minority here.

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  • Edited by DireNazgul: 12/18/2016 5:50:31 PM
    Yeesss. In any case, you need to do a little more research guardian, because it's less than half.

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  • Where are they though.

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  • Buffing primaries won't turn destiny into cod, itll still reward a skilled hand, y1 pre nerf suros killed 3x slower than any gun in cod.

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