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This is what lack of knowledge and understanding leads to. Please tell me why you think the Earth is flat, yet for some reason every other sun, planet and moon in space is round?
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  • Edited by xI Hanson Ix: 11/26/2016 11:15:09 AM
    He will think the earth is flat for many reasons: Centrifugal force - yet water and land isn't gathered at the equator. Impossible sights - there are many pictures of buildings and mountains which should not be seen due to the curvature of earth. (8" for 1 mile. Don't forget since the earth is apparently a sphere the change is exponential. Ie. 8" for the first, 16" for the second....) Nasa lies - they claim to have been on the moon on multiple occasions. I suggest you YouTube 'Nasa moon and Mars hoax'. Besides that they basically admit themselves that the apollo missions were fake with issuing the 1998 (maybe '96 I forget) orion space probe to test whether life could move through the van Allen belts. Why? They've already done it in tin foil and fish bowls. The Bedford canal experiment..... etc. They're just a few flat earth reasons. Maybe drop your arrogance of thinking YOU know everything. You know what you have been told. But that's okay, why would governments lie to us? That's just stupid to think that right? Btw I myself don't think the earth is flat because ships disappear from the bottom up. However that could be explained by a flat earth moving through space, which would cause the light which travels straight to seem to curve to hit the ground. Anyway, I just know it is not the earth they say it is. I'm just not that arrogant to pretend I know what the earth looks like, and I don't trust the words of heliocentrists. Nasa moon and mars hoax video - https://youtu.be/GSJxEMw0MCI

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  • Never said I knew everything. Just stated that stars and planets can be observed by any individual and you can see that they rotate and are spheres. Just like Earth is. The ONLY reason people go against it, is because they are human and for some reason, humans are very good at making stories up and wanting to find reasons for everything. Even if they don't make sense. I agree completely that NASA and government bodies would definitely hide or twist information. However, given that every star, planet and moon observable is a sphere and rotates, it makes complete sense that the Earth does too. However, people cannot be content and feel the need to question when unnecessary.

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  • Edited by xI Hanson Ix: 11/26/2016 1:01:29 PM
    Actually all you can say for sure is you see a changing circle. It could be spherical, it could be flat. It could be close or far away. And without bouncing lasers off them there is no way to know. (Because we perceive 2d with an illusion of depth. Look at a picture). Well.. There is a way to find the distance, using simple trigonometry, but the star or planet has to be on the horizon for that. But.. you act as if he is stupid because he doesn't subscribe to mainstream theories, as if you know them to be fact when you don't. So although you haven't said 'I know everything' you are surely implying it. Edit. Ps. The moon doesn't rotate relative to the earth's face... does that mean it's flat?

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  • Edited by Shadow: 11/26/2016 10:30:30 PM
    A changing circle haha. It can be observed that the planets rotate as they are a sphere. You can identify specific features on them that move due to rotation, then disappear (as the surface faces opposite to the sun), then reappear as it rotates to face the sun and receive light. If it was a flat circle, it wouldn't rotate, key features wouldn't move from one side to the other, they'd be observable all the time, as the whole surface would be exposed to the Suns light. It's difficult trying to explain through text. Basic knowledge of 'shadows' is enough to figure out the planets and moons are spheres. Yes our moon isn't rotating relative to Earth, however due to its shape and the light from the sun you can tell it is a sphere. Hence why, when you observe the moon in its multiple phases, the shadow always has a curve to. Try it at home, get a ball, set up a light and rotate the ball. You will see what happens.

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  • K.

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  • Where's the rebuttal? Is it too hard trying to prove something without facts?

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  • No. I've had these conversations too many times I know not to bother when someone's egotistical. Look, you say you can see planets rotate. But you never have. You have seen nasa simulations so just. K. Talk about spinning balls, spin a wet tennis ball and watch the water fly off. Yet on earth water and land isn't gathered at the equator. I cba with you

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  • Telescopes exist. You can use them to observe planets in space. You can physically see what happens. 👍 A tennis ball doesn't have its own gravitational pull. A planet does, hence why the water doesn't do what you said. The water is also travelling, just like us and every other thing on Earth the same speed as the Earth. We don't feel it. It's like being in a car travelling at 100km. You are also travelling that speed, yet you aren't squashed and pushed into your back seat at the constant speed. 👍 Read a book, research online or look out into the physical world. Doesn't take a scientist to understand these things.

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  • Edited by xI Hanson Ix: 11/27/2016 10:10:40 AM
    Like I said. K. You yourself have never seen a planet rotate. End of. And unless your spending thousands on a telescope you are not making out anything at all. And even then the only feature you will see is possibly the swirl on Jupiter... You have seen simulations and act as if you have looked upon the face of Mars yourself... egotistical. You completely ignore my points.. egotistical. In fact you even said gravity voids centrifugal force. Jesus. Nobody said water would fly off you moron. It should however be gathered more towards the equator than the poles because centrifugal force does, without doubt, exist. I bet you haven't watched that video either have you? Don't act as if I'm stupid because I don't agree with you. I'm well aware of the mainstream model. But unlike you and mainstream science I don't ignore things if they don't fit my theory. I'll tell you what. Get your super telescope out tonight. (Since you must have one by your claims of seeing planets rotate.) Film down the viewer and post it for me so I too can watch the plants rotate. You're like a bible basher claiming the dead sea scrolls match the bible exactly when you're not even allowed to look at them. - You claim the globe-like planets rotate merely because that's what you're told. Which goes back to one of my original points. Why would the governments lie to us? I'm done with you now because I have had this way too many times its like bashing my head on a wall. Suffice it to say, if you cared to do your own research you'd find that most of what you belive is baseless. I won't be drawn in again. Bye. Edit. Ps. You say that you can see shadows on the moon. You do realise the moon is supposed to be reflecting the sun's light yet the 'craters' are always shadowed. Even on a full moon. Hmm... But wait that doesn't fit your theory either so better ignore that too.

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  • Haha this just gets funnier.

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  • Oh dear. You just keep believing this nonsense. Maybe take a few days off to do some sasquatch hunting.

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  • Edited by xI Hanson Ix: 11/26/2016 12:01:47 PM
    How about years looking for 'the missing link'? (Or just fabricate them, that worked.) Ps I'm curious, what did I say that was nonsense?

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  • [quote] Ps I'm curious, what did I say that was nonsense? [/quote] Pretty much everything. I have no patience with people like you. If you genuinely believe the earth is flat, please don't procreate. I'm sure you're just trolling though, as no one is this stupid. Just to be safe, I still wouldn't procreate, if I were you.

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  • So centrifugal force is a myth? All the pictures of landmarks over 100 miles away are photoshopped? Nasa definitely sent men through the van Allen belts it a tiny shuttle. The second time with a buggie there was no room for? Utter nonsense. I see it now.

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  • They're flat too....

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  • Yet when observed through a telescope you can see them rotating and the surface changing, due to different angles, as it rotates. Wow the stupidity is real.

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  • Flat Earth Theory represents knowledge and understanding being able to become what they were really meant to be, not information put into the box science makes for it. Why does it seem difficult for the earth to be Flat, and all other planetary bodies (observed so far) to be round? Remember, Flat Earth Theory holds that the sun, moon, planets, and stars are all much smaller and much closer to the surface of the disk of the earth. They orbit above earths surface. This makes more sense than massive planetary bodies constantly pulling on each other through an unexplained invisible force, and yet somehow never colliding. That is just one reason among many why I think the earth is Flat...

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  • Flat Earth represents the exact opposite. You do realise, you can use a telescope to see out into space at the planets and moons. You can see which ones are closer and further from Earth itself. Hence the varied sizes. I think your biggest lack of understanding is this little thing called 'gravity'. Which pushes everything down, which is why planets are round, as the edges are pushing down all around it to the centre, creating a ball. If the sun orbits a flat disc, which is what you are saying, then you would always see the sun in the sky and the light it gives off. It wouldn't be hidden. I guess this is the problem these days, people believe everything they read on the internet.

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  • Taking what you learn at face value without questioning it, whether it is the internet our a textbook, is a major problem. I agree. Planar Theory sounds crazy at first, as it goes against decades of what we are conditioned to believe both directly and indirectly. While that does not disprove its validity, looking at the natural world with unaided senses does disprove round earth belief. Scientists, when pressed, will admit that they do not understand "how" gravity actually works. It is described as mass warping space time. Yet no one knows why mass supposedly warps space time. And if the moon is so big and so close to earth, why hasnt it been pulled into the earth yet? Why hasnt earth been pulled into the sun, or the entire galaxy pulled into the supposed black hole at its center? Gravity is just too convenient. People talk about using "God of the Gaps" as an intellectual solve all. Well, scientists use "Gravity of the Gaps". In other words, if we dont understand something about physics and outer space, gravity is probably the answer. Regarding the sun, it does not emit light equally in all directions. It acts more as a spot light as it circles above the surface of the disk.

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  • I've never seen anyone post so much, without actually saying anything at all.

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  • You lack a fundamental knowledge of: planets, gravity, orbits, physics, geometry, light.

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  • The fact that any individual can observe the planets and moons and physically see them rotate is already enough to prove it. Obviously you don't understand what you are talking about. Research information about gravity and hopefully you will realise why its strength varies depending on the mass of an object and it's pull. The sun isn't a spotlight, it emits light all around it as it is a sphere. It's not like the Bat signal beaming down. I'm not sure whether this is satire, troll or bait, however it's very obvious that your lack of knowledge strongly shows how misinformed you are.

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