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Edited by Ghost4201990: 10/25/2016 12:37:09 AM
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Do some more research you get more stem cells from embryonic fluid and the placenta than you do from the embryo meaning you don't have to murder babies to do it. There's a program now where you can have your babies placenta frozen and saved in case it's needed to treat a desease. I like this alot more than terminating a life
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  • A stem baby is no more alive than your thumb.

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  • [quote]A stem baby is no more alive than your thumb.[/quote] False within the first couple few weeks it has a heartbeat

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  • There is a huge difference between embryonic stem cells and the stem cells harvested from that source friend. The human placenta and umbilical cord blood are rich in [u]hematopoietic progenitor and hematopoietic stem cells (HSCs)[/u], which give rise to all the blood cell types. Blood cell types, not any cell type in the body like embryonic stem cells. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53250/

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  • [quote]There is a huge difference between embryonic stem cells and the stem cells harvested from that source friend. The human placenta and umbilical cord blood are rich in [u]hematopoietic progenitor and hematopoietic stem cells (HSCs)[/u], which give rise to all the blood cell types. Blood cell types, not any cell type in the body like embryonic stem cells. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53250/[/quote] Except you said that's true about embryonic stem cells also I heard this from a scientist and again I feel far more comfortable with saving a human life and using useless fluids which are far more rich and stem cells and even if that wasn't the case I don't care what diseases it cures taking a life is immoral

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  • Well as I said in the OP, that is an opinion to have that you are entitled to. I still feel you are missing my point though. Not all stem cells are the same. The stem cells you are talking about can only become blood cell types. I feel like you didn't even read my post, and arrogantly accuse me of not researching the topic.

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  • [quote]Well as I said in the OP, that is an opinion to have that you are entitled to. I still feel you are missing my point though. Not all stem cells are the same. The stem cells you are talking about can only become blood cell types. I feel like you didn't even read my post, and arrogantly accuse me of not researching the topic.[/quote] I didn't say you didn't but I don't see you coming here to get constructive criticism iether I see you pushing an agenda it's quite clear actually after reading your responses. You're not coming at this scientifically but selfishly. Here's what you're saying basically -man has a quarter of his brain damaged, let's kill someone and use that part of their brain to fix him Dude scientifically that babies alive and is conscious early on in development within the first few weeks actually. That's immoral or do you want us to be like the borg and whatever benifits the collective is the goal? That's exactly what the left is the borg

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  • Did your dumb ass even read the post? Embryonic stem cells are harvested from a blastocyst, which is a stage [b][u]3-5 days[/u][/b] after the egg is fertilized. It has no nervous system, no brain, and no sentience. It only consists of 50-100 cells, which practically fits on the head of a pin. Try reading before making yourself look like a complete moron. He even says he has his own ethical misgivings about the subject.

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  • Edited by A Spooky Reaper: 10/25/2016 1:31:14 AM
    [quote] Here's what you're saying basically -man has a quarter of his brain damaged, let's kill someone and use that part of their brain to fix him Dude scientifically that babies alive and is conscious early on in development [u]within the first few weeks actuall[/u]y. [/quote] Now I know you didn't read my post. Constructive criticism requires a knowledge of what you are critiquing. Good day Read the first spoiler.

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  • I just told you why it's immoral that's pretty constructive no I won't assimilate to your barbaric beliefs

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  • A 5 day fertilized egg is not a baby

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  • You can't even tell if your pregnant at that point so irrelevant

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  • This makes it perfectly clear you did not read ops post at all if you did you would know he is mostly talking about early fertilized eggs that can be used for stem research and no the placenta is not a useful for stem research as a fetus

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  • [quote]This makes it perfectly clear you did not read ops post at all if you did you would know he is mostly talking about early fertilized eggs that can be used for stem research and no the placenta is not a useful for stem research as a fetus[/quote] I was offered to have it frozen when my son was born to save for if he ever got a desease cured that way so you're wrong. I've seen scientists speak about it and it has more stem cells and getting fertilized eggs that early would take invetro meaning it wouldn't be abortion and he didn't say that so wrong again bud

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  • Now I remember why I muted you. The fact that I was gone for six months and in that time you haven't been hit by a bus is nothing short of miraculous.

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  • [quote]Now I remember why I muted you. The fact that I was gone for six months and in that time you haven't been hit by a bus is nothing short of miraculous.[/quote] Muting is for safe space sjws

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