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In 1980 it was global cooling with a catastrophic ice age coming by the 1990's to 2000's. By the early 2000's it was global warming with a catastrophic melting of the ice caps and 60 ft sea level rise by 2015-2016. Now it is climate change with catastrophic climate failure and an unlivable planet by 2040. Anyone else see a pattern here? I mean every piece of "research" and every leading scientist said that the north pole would be gone by 2015-2016 and yet its still here. Now global warming is no longer the term and the dates have been pushed back yet again. This is my whole problem with these global warming conspiracy theorists. They also completely ignore 3 things that are vital to our climate and our planet and we have no control over whatsoever. The first is the sun. The sun goes through cycles of increased output and decreased output which in their minds has no effect whatsoever on our overall climate despite the vast amount of energy that basically powers all life and our weather cycles coming directly from the sun. These cycles also correspond to their claims of either cooling or heating yet again it must be a non factor. Its not like a 1% increase or decrease in solar output could change our planets temperature a few degrees right? The second biggest thing is volcanoes. While old research shows that volcanoes had "little effect" on the climate newer research has shown many interesting things such as larger output of gas many times more than previously thought, long term impacts that can be seen globally such as affecting temperature years after an eruption, and the release of exotic more harmful gasses not previously measured. Volcanoes were solely responsible for melting the Snowball Earth (a period when the entire Earth froze solid on the surface). They also are held responsible for completely melting the poles in the past for a Tropical Earth system, and yet must have little to no impact on our climate today when many go off... Seriously? The final aspect is CO2's vast insignificance compared to other greenhouse gasses. Methane for example is actually extremely harmful compared to CO2 but is often ignored and considered insignificant. Even water vapor, yes water, has a greater warming effect than CO2 and simply having more moisture in the air can cause fiercer storms and extreme changes in temperature in either direction. In fact it is the biggest and most abundant greenhouse gas. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas that has much stronger effect on climate so what do we do? We push for hydrogen and water vapor based cars because that will be a non harmful emission vehicle. I mean come on... This is basic things about the greenhouse effect and yet even that is ignored. So keep date setting and claiming the apocalypse is near in a different form every decade. It definitely doesnt make you look like those end of the world fanatics or religious fringes that claim similar things every few years.
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  • Global warming is man made. Yes, there are many other factors that determine the Earth's temperature but the temperature of the planet has never changed as rapidly as it has in the last few decades

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  • The thing is, humans can't (yet) control the sun's output or the eruption of volcanoes. We do, however, have an effect on the atmospheric level of carbon dioxide and methane. Yes, methane also. You see, when food decomposes in a landfill, there is often not enough oxygen for it to give off CO2. This anaerobic decomposition leads to the production of, you guessed it, methane. As for the predictions, you're relying on something called the fallacy fallacy. Basically it's the assumption that, because an argument was made poorly or incorrectly, not only is the argument wrong, but so is the point it was arguing. You can't throw the whole thing out the window just because some people got the timeline wrong, because there could be many reasons for that.

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  • Lets start from the beginning. Do you believe this post? Did you even read this post? I didnt use weather as a indicator at all. This can be proven by chemistry alone as a natual fact. I used ocean water as the indicator and proven science that can be repeated. You can say it is another problem, with similar causes, amd similar end results. Proven chemistry. Probably post all the exact chemical equations (dont because there is a few). Straight forward and no weather guessing. I had your kind in mind when i made this post.

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  • https://thelogicofscience.com/2016/10/18/debunking-25-arguments-against-climate-change-in-5-sentences-or-less-each/ Read this and become better informed.

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