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Edited by Halolover: 10/14/2016 10:06:55 PM
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Very inconsistent Archon's Forge loot

So, I've noticed now just how inconsistently the A.F loot drops. Now I've been going for my own "But not Forgotten" Sniper rife from the Archon's Forge, and since day one of this DLC, and 330 Archon's Forges completed, I have yet to reap the reward that many people I know have claimed three times over. Most times I see the rifle drop, it's for someone who didn't even present the offering, or decided to hop in last second. Now I wouldn't be as mad if the other rewards even dropped reliably. Through hours of wasted time in Archon's Forge, I often come out with one class item 2 light lvls below my current, and maybe one or two legendary engrams if I'm lucky. Now I'm not saying to pass the loot like hotcakes, but at least make it reliable in some form, so people like me don't have to spend two hours to get absolutely nothing. (EDIT) : For those telling me to just "grind it out." I get it, I've played this game long enough to know that's the basis of how you get anything and everything you want, but Isn't that what I've been doing so far? You're trying to correct me by telling me to do something I already am. I just wanted to point out the inconsistencies in the loot table. (EDIT#2) I've finally got one on my 340 something run.

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  • I've started disassembling engrams before cashing them in. It's ridiculous.

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  • I have fared well there, not want you want to hear, I'm sure. All three have the awesome fusion- love that thing. The gear does seem to drop less in my case. It'll happen for you, don't give up.

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    • This is probably obvious but make sure you're only running the purple or blue ones if you want drops the green ones don't drop shit really.

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    • Edited by puppyk1sses: 10/14/2016 12:32:29 AM
      It's actually one of the most lucrative activities in the game imho. I've been spending a lot of time there recently trying to get a nicely rolled But Not Forgotten. If you know how to exploit matchmaking by crouch walking down the tunnel, getting a group is almost never an issue. Spending an hour or so there will likely completely fill your inventory with engrams. Spending 1.5-2 hours there will guaranteed fill you up + fill up your postmaster. Out of all those engrams, you are looking at maybe 20 legendaries if you account for blues that turn into legendaries. You can get loads of weapons, and I personally have got some high quality stuff just from engrams. You also get: cap on glimmer (with proper ghost), tons and tons of marks from breakdowns, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of spinmetal for faction boosting (if you equip the proper ghost), 2 cryptarch level ups, a likely full vanguard + faction level up if you pick up the weekly quests, a potential very very nice sniper, exotic farming (perfected boss = ultra), a bajillion weapon/armor parts to dump into faction levelling, and light boosting class items if you need that as well. Name another activity where you can get all that in [u]<[/u] 2 hours. There might be or two out there, but my point is that its pretty darn lucrative. After you do your weekly raids and such, this is a good place to kill time!

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      • Played first time and got two snipers. Haven't seen another one or anything else since.

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      • I've been lucky at the Forge so far. I have seen absolutely horrible luck elsewhere though to balance it out. Ran 11 Heroic strikes in a row and saw ZERO legendary drops, one exotic from 3oC, and one treasure key. I don't expect to be showered with loot but aren't the Heroics supposed to drop better loot and be buffed when you run back to back? Things seem a little off in a lot of areas.

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      • The only notable thing I've gotten is Saladin's vigil.. And while nice, I went in hoping for armor.. Other than that and a few bonds, I've gotten jack shit.

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      • [u][b]Steps to recovering from RNG loss.[/b][/u] Guardians, keep in mind — all Guardians grieve differently. Some Guardians will wear their emotions on their sleeve and be outwardly emotional. Others will experience their grief more internally, and may not cry. You should try and not judge how a Guardian experiences their grief, as each person will experience it differently. [b]1. Denial and Isolation[/b] The first reaction to learning of not getting what you wish RNG would give you is to deny the reality of the situation. It is a normal reaction to rationalize overwhelming emotions. It is a defense mechanism that buffers the immediate shock. We block out the words and hide from the facts. This is a temporary response that carries us through the first wave of pain. [b]2. Anger[/b] As the masking effects of denial and isolation begin to wear, reality and its pain re-emerge. We are not ready. The intense emotion is deflected from our vulnerable core, redirected and expressed instead as anger. The anger may be aimed at inanimate objects, complete strangers, friends or family or even other Guardians. Anger may be directed at RNG directly. Rationally, we know RNG is not to be blamed. Emotionally, however, we may resent RNG for causing us pain. Remember, grieving is a personal process that has no time limit, nor one “right” way to do it. [b]3. Bargaining[/b] The normal reaction to feelings of helplessness and vulnerability is often a need to regain control– ◾If only we could decode how RNG works ◾If only we could make RNG do what we want ◾If only we had a way to know what RNG would give us ◾If only RNG would not give other people things I want while I am watching Secretly, we may make a deal with God or our higher power. This is a weaker line of defense to protect us from the painful reality. [b]4. Depression[/b] Two types of depression are associated with RNG. The first one is a reaction to practical implications relating to the loss. Sadness and regret predominate this type of depression. This phase may be eased by simple clarification and reassurance. We may need a bit of helpful cooperation and a few kind words. The second type of depression is more subtle and, in a sense, perhaps more private. It is our quiet preparation to separate and to bid our RNG dreams farewell. Sometimes all we really need is a hug. [b]5. Acceptance[/b] Reaching this stage of mourning is a gift not afforded to everyone. An RNG dick punch can be sudden and unexpected and we may never see beyond our anger or denial. It is not necessarily a mark of bravery to resist the inevitable and to deny ourselves the opportunity to make our peace. This phase is marked by withdrawal and calm. This is not a period of happiness and must be distinguished from depression. Coping with RNG loss is ultimately a deeply personal and singular experience — nobody can help you go through it more easily or understand all the emotions that you’re going through. But others can be there for you and help comfort you through this process. The best thing you can do is to allow yourself to feel the grief as it comes over you. Resisting it only will prolong the natural process of healing

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        • RNG = inconsistent

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        • You mean you get something other than titan ass rags.........

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        • My archons experience. At least 30 runs each week since release. 3 snipers . 1 fusion. 1 dream eater helmet. 1 dream eater vest. About 500 capes.😂 And over 9000 greens.

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          • Once you tell yourself I don't care if I get the ( insert item name) you will usually get it soon after

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            • Edited by h1r0l3r: 10/13/2016 3:36:26 PM
              Surprisingly my luck at the Forge has been pretty good. Gotten 3-4 Saladin's Vigil (great fusion BTW), 2 snipers, full Titan armor and about 1.3 million titan marks in the process. Starting to do it with my other characters now so hopefully the luck will continue.

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            • I finally got the helmet for my hunter. It's beautiful :')

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            • I can't run the forge for more then 30 minutes without having to go to the tower. I get a ridiculous amount of legendary gear from that.

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              • I've never received a weapon either. The only armor is a warlock helm and a crap ton of class items. I'm not sure how many completions I have, definitely not 300 though. I have never received a legendary offering though so I think that has a lot to do with it as well.

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              • Jeez, I got the fusion rifle from my second ever run, and the sniper shortly after (and nearly all armour since)... to say you're unlucky is quite the understatement.

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              • You're he most unlucky man I've ever heard of in destiny. 330 runs. God help you.

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              • People still complain about RNG in year 3 of Destiny? Is this real?

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                • I have never gotten a weapon there. And I've been in there a lot. Freaking class items and helmets that are only 365.

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                • Not sure if you heard but Destiny's loot is RNG?

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                • It's very consistent for me. Nothing but class items

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                • I would make sure you aren't losing items in your postmaster and you might be doing this now but possibly lost items early on like most of us. Your But Not Forgotten might just have been lost in your early days.

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                • I did all my iron lord bountys on all 3 characters in archon forge and you know what i got? A Shìt tonne of class items and only 3 weapons and to top it all not one of these class items was higher in light level then what i had

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                • If u have really spend that much time on AF than is messed up u haven't gotten it dude. Since the release of roi ive gotten 2 snipers, 1 fusion rifle, 1 arm, 2 chest, and like 20+ class armor. So yea the drop rates r a bit messed up.

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                • Got my God roll Vigil, got out immediately. I'll only do it for bounties, but other than that the rewards just aren't there really. They even drop at 365 unless it's a class item further solidifying the pointlessness of the activity.

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