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Edited by The Cellar Door:
10/4/2016 2:09:25 PM
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[b][u][i]RAP[/i][/u][/b]
Subgenre 1: Oldschool
albums:
Run-DMC - "Raising Hell"
Public Enemy - "It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back"
Eric B. & Rakim - "Paid in Full"
Nas - "Illmatic"
Wu Tang Clan - "Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)"
Subgenre 2: Underground
albums:
Blu - "Below the Heavens"
Madvilliany - "Madvilliany"
Aesop Rock - "None Shall Pass"
Subgenre 3: Alternative Hip-Hop
albums:
OutKast - "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below"
Kanye West - "808's & Heartbreak"
Lupe Fiasco - "Lupe Fiasco's The Cool"
Gorillaz - "Gorillaz"
Kanye West - "The College Dropout"
Subgenre 4:
albums:
Subgenre 5:
albums:
English
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I think a sub genre should be trap, although not all for me. It's still very popular. Like I said, It's not for me, so I don't know exact albums for some artists. Probably some: Gucci mane Lil Wayne T-Pain
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I don't think Lil Wayne or T-Pain would classify as trap.
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I think a sub genre should be trap, although not all for me. It's still very popular. Like I said, It's not for me, so I don't know exact albums for some artists. Probably some: Gucci mane Lil Wayne T-Pain
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Where is drill/trap music?
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Where the trap music at
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TPAB and 2014 Forest hills drive need to be there imo.
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I might agree with TPAB. Don't get me wrong, J. Cole went platinum with no features, but it was really nothing very genre defining, just good music. Nothing that stands out as "wow, he did that, he changed music."
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I agree, but personally to me it showed what a small artist can do by himself in a genre that is looked down upon by every other genre. He didn't change anything in the genre of music, but I think it should be under modern music, but that's just me. A lot of his underground music that wasn't in forest hills drive has a lot of deep meaning, but you're right about the album, it's just good music.
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" Rapper's delight " fit anywhere?
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If Experimental wounds up being on this list, I would like to vote for Exmilitary or The Money Store, both by Death Grips.
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Eminem: Recovery. It's a classic and was his first album after getting out of drug rehab.
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It's not even his best album nor is it very genre-defining. The only album from Eminem that deserves a spot on one of these lists is SSLP, in my opinion. Though, I don't know where I'd put it because Horrorcore isn't a very relevant subgenre.
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Mix tapes as a sub genre?
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Edited by tjustie: 10/4/2016 3:54:07 AMMaybe a G-funk subgenre? Stuff like Dre's The Chronic, Snoop Dogg's Doggystyle, 2Pac's All Eyez On Me, and Nate Dogg's G-funk Classics Vol 1 & 2 or Music and Me? Or maybe that stuff would fall under old school. Also I don't know what category it would be under, but I feel like The College Dropout should go on here somewhere.
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I think G-funk could work. But maybe we could generalize it to West Coast? Also, I edited the Alternative Rap section and added The College Dropout. I agree that it's pretty significant as it is set the tone for hip-hop straying away from gangsta rap, I just didn't want anyone getting mad at me putting Kanye twice, as I am what some would call biased. I can't remove 808's because of how influential the album was. But now that I'm thinking about it, should we have The College Dropout, or Late Registration? Many people consider LR an essential Kanye album, and it was a bit more transparent about its avant-garde aspects than CD.
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Edited by tjustie: 10/4/2016 8:51:52 PMI think West Coast is distinct and wide enough (is that contradictory?) of a sort of overarching subgenre that it could work. As far as LR vs TCD goes, I dunno. I personally like TCD a little more, it has some of my favorite songs, and I think that since it came along first, it probably had more influence than LR, which functioned more to solidify the kind of rap and production that TCD brought about. I think a lot of people are of the opinion that LR is like a better TCD though; It's a bit more cohesive of an album, and doesn't have quite as many skits breaking up the flow of the album as TCD does. Either would be great additions to the list imo.
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Subgenre 4 should be trap. With the albums DS2 by future and lil boat by lil yachty. Some other people can figure out others
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[quote]Subgenre 4 should be trap. With the albums DS2 by future and lil boat by lil yachty. Some other people can figure out others[/quote] I'm not exactly sure those qualify as "trap." Trap music is more like, Rick Ross's "Teflon Don," or T.I.'s "Trap Muzik." I would argue that they fall in the category of alternative rap, and that they wouldn't exist without people like OutKast and Kanye West. Though, I could see a case being made for labeling them "hype rap" and having perhaps some Young Thug, Chief Keef, and Waka Flocka Flame in there.
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Ok then hype rap it is, but future legit has a song in his album called "trap n****s"
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[quote]Ok then hype rap it is, but future legit has a song in his album called "trap n****s"[/quote] He's referring to the term "trap." Trap -blam!- = drug dealers.
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That's what I was saying
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Am I too late to throw in "Soul Food" by Goodie Mob?
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Of course not. This is an ongoing process. Do you think I should add a "Southern" sub-genre?
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Edited by Psyntifik: 10/4/2016 8:50:47 AMProbably not the worst one you could put up there. That being said, I can't think of the top of my head who else you could include in it. Cunninlynguists, perhaps? But hmm...
