Haha. Bungie and the NerfTrain riders have made them completely ineffective, even in the damn range they're supposed to be good. Unfortunately Bungie's idea of "weapon balance" is everyone in crucible using Scout(Mida)/Sniper,Pulse/Sniper, DoP style AR/Sniper. You can win in the short to medium range with a HC if you catch them from behind and pop them twice before they turn around or you're in inferno and they don't see you till it's too late. I use to love HC. LHF and Red Hand carried me through Vanilla, TDB and HoW but the nerfs they handed down to this class of weapon is just pathetic. TLW is actually the only HC I've seen do any good and by that I mean I've been killed by it a lot the last few days. Bungie needs to do a lot of things to make this game balanced.
What they really should do is undo every damn nerf they've done except on thorn and TLW(screw them and the ppl who use em) and start everything back to Vanilla standards step away from their desks and let it ride for a few weeks and see what actually needs to be tweaked by the numbers not the whiny chumps who cry nerf every time they're killed.
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[b]Everything put back to Vanilla Standards except Thorn and TLW[/b]? Alright, best prepare your anus for the return of the Vex Mythoclast, Fusion, Launcher combo or the Suros, Fusion, Launcher combo. I don't know if you were around back then, but just to tell you; The Vex was a 3-shot kill, regardless of headshots, from any range, and with scout rifle accuracy. The Suros was a 4-6 shot kill, regardless of range, with fast RoF and perfect accuracy (no bounce in any direction.) Fusion Rifles (any archetype) were so lethal that they could OHK anyone from basically sniper-rifle ranges. Rocket Lauchers with pre-nerf Grenades & Horseshoes were so toxic, that you could be ~10ft away from the rocket and it would explode on you.
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Edited by Darches: 8/25/2016 1:09:18 AM[quote]... [b]and see what actually needs to be tweaked by the numbers not the whiny chumps who cry nerf[/b]...[/quote] Also, the Vex was NEVER a 3 shot kill, even to the head. It dealt 45(56) damage (with damage boosting barrel) and killed in 5(4) shots. The SUROS has a SLOW RoF? FR's and RL's can probably stay as is since nobody is complaining about them.
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Edited by joey big guns: 8/23/2016 10:32:22 PMI've been here since the beta. I was there for all that at least there were a variety of weapons used at the time so I didn't mind. Thorn wasn't even a problem then because no one used it. It only became popular thanks to bandwagon chumps. Now the "balance" is three or four primaries and one special- a sniper.
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I don't believe you've really been here since the Beta as well as I. If you were, you wouldn't want things back to how they were in Vanilla. Auto Rifles were game-breaking, Vex Mythoclast was basically the end-all due to it's 3HK lethality at any range - Scout Rifles were garbage due to taking 5-6 headshots to kill and Pulse Rifles... well, you were a joke if you tried to use those back in Vanilla due to them taking 6-7 pulses to kill someone at the time (and that was in the head). If you were here since Beta, what Auto Rifle other than Suros Regime dominated the Meta at the time?
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Edited by joey big guns: 8/23/2016 11:30:00 PMI don't adhere to the "meta", Shadow price sir! It was my first legendary drop. That and the mighty Khostov (oh and don't say meta, that's just such a gay thing to say) Which apparently will now be an exotic sometime soon. Also, I don't give a damn if you don't believe that I've been here since the beta but I will tell you this...the moon opened up and max level was 8. Or you could look at them emblems hat I'm sporting, they seem to look a lot like yours...hmm where'd I get those two from...I wonder...
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How's it homosexual to say meta?