originally posted in:The Ashen Conflux
I remember something in the House of Wolves quest line description saying there were thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, of houses before the Whirlwind. They all got rekt by Oryx and the hive. There probably was a House of Stone that was annihilated after its Kell was killed. It would make sense in my mind for there to be that many houses. If you look at the Grimoire, the House of Wolves numbered in the millions before the pwnage of Ceres. If that was around the normal size of an eliksni house during the Whirlwind, there must have had to be several thousand houses if the Eliksni population was large enough for the Traveller to think they could stand up to the hive. I mean, Humanity could have been up to 8 or 9 billion before the Traveller sets down on Mars. We could have gotten to 12-20 billion before the Collapse, and look how badly we did against the hive. The hive have been a scourge upon the universe since before Earth was formed. That's nearly 13.4 billion years of slaughtering every species the Traveller thought could stand up against the hive's might. The Traveller had to have become somewhat experienced in chosing races to help it fight the Darkness by the time it got to the Eliksni. The had to be either in the billions in population or pretty damn good at fighting for the Traveller to have thought they stood a chance. If you've played Destiny for any decent amount of time, you know that the fallen are not good at fighting us or the hive. So, they must have had one hell of a population for the Traveller to deem them worthy of its gifts. Contradict me, please. I like to see the many opinions in the Destiny universe.
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I totally agree with your thoughts here. My only "contradiction" would be that just because there were potentially billions of Fallen doesn't necessarily mean there were a huge amount of Houses. From what we know, Houses don't work in the 'traditional' way, like a Family Crest or Bloodline would work on Earth. Houses do not seem to be family-related, and in fact tend to be more function-based. This means that, potentially, there could have been the same number of houses (sans Exiled, plus Rain, maybe Stone, and hypothetically Scar), just with billions of members. I mean, each House only has one Prime, one Archon, one Kell, etc. Primes are considered powerful treasures by the Fallen, which wouldn't make sense if there was one per House, and hundreds of Houses. Then again, perhaps only certain Houses got Prime Servitors? We may never know.
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Good point. Another thought, maybe Prime Servitors are thought to be so valuable because the fallen lost all capability and knowledge of how to make them in the Whirlwind.