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8/20/2016 12:01:21 AM
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Hawkmoon NEEDS a Buff
This thing has been absolutely destroyed over the course of the last few patches. It has had it's range, stability, accuracy and exotic bonuses nerfed since 2.0. This weapon has no purpose since pretty much every weapon is better than it. Hawkmoon really needs a buff in at least the range and accuracy department, and a big one at that. If it were to get a lucky bullet damage increase and stability increase also, that wouldn't be all that bad, either. Just increase its range and accuracy. It needs to be worth the exotic slot again.
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29 RepliesEdited by kellygreen45: 8/21/2016 6:02:59 PMHawkmoon doesn't need a buff. Pace your shots. Buff that gun any more and it goes back to being the fastest killing weapon in PvP when it's lucky rounds proc. Back up and pace your shots.
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Remove hammer forged and replace it with rifled barrel and /or add rangefinder as a hidden perk. Just my opinion.
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1 ReplyHawk moon is a 2 shot to the head this makes 0 sense why it needs a buff. Basically you want a sniper cannon
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Agreed more stability and more accuracy
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They told us it was coming with the description on the Eyesluna. One day young hawk, thou shalt sail beneath a silvered moon. That day being when Hawkmoon got nerfpooped on.
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32 RepliesAll HandCannons are OP. In no reality do they have the range and damage at that range (nor accuracy) that they have in this game. They should not be able to outrage or out-TTK an AutoRifle in any "reality". It ..along with shotguns have become over utilized as "crutch" weapons for less skilled gamers. My opinion is that it should be a secondary weapon anyway... No one runs around in a combat theatre with a HandCannon as their primary weapon... They would be gunned down EVERY TIME.. Lol
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One day, young hawk, thou shalt [b]fail[/b] beneath the silvered moon. :(
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Ah, the glory days of the 1h body shot if all damage perks proc'd on a single bullet.
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1 ReplyHawkmoon has been replaced by Eyusuna it destroys Hawkmoon is you get luck in the chamber and a range perk.
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1 Replyincrease the range and the hit detection, i used to be amazing with it now my shots never register, it will always be my favorite gun in this game no matter what but I hate to see it keep getting nerfed for no reason. The 223 one shot was what's special about it and they took it away, I did think that the lucky rounds should decrease a bit. -Should be able to one shot (very low chances) -Range increased 5-10% -Give it a little extra ammo capacity especially in PVE -Give it year 1 hit detection before they touched it this thing needs to make a comeback but not to take over crucible, I've been using hand cannons forever and I can definitely see a difference. The eyasluna feels to me it registers a lot more shots than the OG hawkmoon, BUNGIE PLEASE
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It won't need a buff if they fix ghost bullets
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1 ReplyNope. It was op. I still use it and its fine.
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Yesss
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Yes, hawkmoon needs a major buff. The recoil is horrible and when you use the gun you really have to depend on the lucky bullets to get a consistent kill. The range and stability needs a 10 to 15% increase to complete with other weapons. Since using hawkmoon in year 1 vs now. The weapon is not worthy of an exotic slot. Bungie buff the hawkmoon please.
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Edited by Ness: 8/21/2016 2:57:09 AMHere's what I think they need to do to it: -Increased LitC damage (it used to do 126, now I think it does 114 or 116) -Increased range (additional 5-10%) -Increased impact (it should do 94 damage of you use aggressive ballistics and only slightly less if you don't) -Remove bloom (all handcannons) I think it's in a good spot for now, but sometimes it can be inconsistent. I think these buffs would help it a little.
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I agree with you exotics are supposed to Stand out I mean it's still good but there are other better hand cannons
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1 ReplyThey could be planning to bring some of the good guns back. They did that with the thorn (not to say that it's a good gun or bad gun, just example).
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Edited by Locker: 8/21/2016 7:14:41 AMHawkmoon used to be a beast. It's a shadow of its former self. That said I think it could use a bit more stability / accuracy. When an easluna can outgun it every time that's a problem. It's unused because there are better legendary options. It just doesn't feel right anymore it's off !!
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1 ReplyEdited by DukeLax50: 8/21/2016 12:49:39 AMHawk moon, you dirty devil... I tend to agree the not only hawkmoon, but all hand cannons need a buff. Yes, accuracy bloom is terrible (ghost bullets) and is especially noticeable in hawkmoon and other lower rate of fire hand cannons. It needs to be removed from all hand cannons (yes, that includes last word) because if you are aiming at something that you intend to hit at the optimal range for that archetype and pull the trigger, it should be able to hit that target. There is no need for some dumb nerf that no other weapon type has. Yes, hand cannons such as last word are some of the most used weapons in crucible, that is simply for the quick time to kill that these weapons offer at their OPTIMAL range. So if you try to bring your handy dandy high ROF low impact auto into hand cannon range, you are bound to get blasted. I could go in depth forever, but the point is that hand cannons are supposed to be a rewarding weapon for those who can land their shots. Making them take extra shots makes the TTK longer and therefore removes the point of high risk high reward. Edit-This is not to say that there aren't other weapons and archetypes that need improvement, because I would love to see something like necrocasm actually relevant in the game, especially since it was such a grind to get.
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1 ReplyJust waiting for the Rise of Iron Thorn. Hawkmoon used to be my favorite. Then Bungie made it suck balls. I was honestly shocked at how much better a decent roll on Eyesluna was.....
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4 RepliesYes I absolutely agree with you it's accuracy and range needs to be buffed or slightly altered. People are just using eysulana since it's pretty consistent and crispy; due to it having more range than Hawkmoon with the certain perks can be very effective and deadly. The Hawkmoon needs to have my exotic slot since I do love it.
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How about a Hand Cannon buff across the board instead, like the removal of the bloom cone that's causing the phantom bullets.
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It shouldn't be outplayed by its legendary counterpart. Considering my Eyasluna has near max stability, hawkmoon is in need of a huge buff.
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I disagree. Hawkmoon has the highest consistent damage output out of every hand cannon of the game. Which means more kills per mag in the crucible. If you are struggling to use it that is because you are using it for the wrong reason: Its purpose since launch has changed... Its not longer meant to get you "quick kills" (though it is still capable of it). Its purpose since 2.0 has been to get your MORE kills over a longer time period due to its high DPS per magazine. Also, here are some stats... Since the launch of taken king hawkmoon has: -Made about 4% of all kills in trials of osiris (making it the 5th most used primary in trials of Osiris and the MOST used exotic hand cannon in trials of osiris since the launch of TTK) -Been the 17th most used weapon over all (across all weapons types and archetypes) since the alunch of TTK
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Increase the reserve ammo on it as well.
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