Today we applied the [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/44932/7_New-Matchmaking-Settings---07062016-]recent changes[/url] we made to Matchmaking settings in Control to all other playlists except Trials of Osiris - which uses different Matchmaking settings that are specific to that event. These settings will also be applied to the next Iron Banner. Play some games and leave your feedback below.
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#Destiny
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Take out sbmm, it just makes crucible way less fun, and constantly matches against laggy opponents. CBMM
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The matchmaking settings are a joke!
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cbmm cbmm cbmm cbmm pvp is broken cbmm cbmm cbmm pvp is broken
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Worst connections ever plus I've noticed how you have tried to mask red bars as Green. I've also noticed the Stealth nerf on Shotguns. You would think as a game gets older it gets better but with Destiny it seems to get worse. IB sucks.
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Just a reminder that these new matchmaking changes are still complete garbage. Lag, respawning in front of enemies, entering matches either already well underway or with less than full teams, and just plain poor matchmaking and gameplay across the teams. Please let us know what your plan is to fix it!!!
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The matchmaking system is so frustrating. Most of the time im playing pvp, and most of the time im doing this solo. When i come home from work i just want to relax and play pvp, but sbmm makes this impossible. I cant count how often i join matches in progress, how often i run into "tryhard" fireteams, how often i get killed through walls (LAG) etc... it is not possible to play any fun loadouts because of it. Private matches will come, but as i said: most of the time im playing solo. So i have to rely on " normal " pvp. From 10 matches 9 are making me salty. in my opinion matchmaking should be connection based. But i think Bungie doesnt care...Sorry for my bad english Peace.... A fan from Germany
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Edited by JD_Nemesis: 8/16/2016 8:08:16 PMVery simple fix required - block people with bad connections. We've all been saying this for such a long time now get on and do it. Edit: apparently you can't say sh*tty on this forum or people go out of their tiny little minds.
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Edited by OneLeanMachine: 8/16/2016 7:11:13 PMPvP and PvE need to be a more separate experience. A nerf in PvP needs to not affect the weapon in PvE. It's simple as that. Same with classes. Weapons and classes need COMPLETELY separate stats in PvE and PvP.
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I can't wait for dedicated servers. I swear this is number one for me for pvp in Destiny 2. Custom games and private matches are nice, but man the lag is just horrid Also, I'd love to have the "participation medal" mentality removed from the game: Connection sucks? Here's God mode so you don't feel bad Playing people way better than you? Here's "damage referee" to make them have to shoot you more than you them Playing people way better than you? Here's the uber-broken SBMM system no one wanted so better players have to wait 5 min to be paired against players from all over the world. Kumbaya b!tches Guns too powerful in skilled hands? Nerfed Class too powerful in skilled hands? Nerfed Gun is too popular? Nerfed (just cause MIDA) You were in last place again? Here's the best rewards while the first place guy gets nothing Can't aim that sniper? Here's crazy aim assist, minimal to no flinch, no descope when taking precision damage Use a fusion rifle? Nerfed ('cause... you know) Trip mines were useful and no one complained about them ever? Nerfed Blade dancer hit detection stinks and you have to hit a stationary target with 4 strikes to kill them? Too bad cause... Blade dancers... Etc etc /rant
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US PLAYERS WITH A 1.5-2.5 KD WANT TO RELAX AND PLAY AROUND WITH GUNS THAT YOU -blam!-ED UP. WE CANT DO THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE WANNA PLAY A GAME, BEFORE BED, SOME GUY IS SWEATING HIS DICK OFF IN AMERICA, LIKE FOR REAL, LISTEN TO US, AND PROVE TO US THE SBMM IS GONE, KEEP IT IN TRIALS, MAKE TRIALS HARDER, THEN JUST IMPLEMENT RANKED PLAY FOR SWEATY PLAYERS AND LET OTHERS HAVE FUN WHEN THEY WANT TO, IT AINT HARD. @Cosmo_BNG
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Does that mean I won't fight the same ole clans over and over when I decide to solo que?
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Look at the feedback people are leaving, loooook!!! We know nothing has changed, and we don't want SBMM. How many more players will you have to lose to realize this. Act like a AAA Developer and make some real changes for Gods sake.
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Edited by Swervinggamer99: 8/15/2016 5:39:10 AMPlease remove SBMM and bring back the old matchmaking in trials of Osiris. Destiny is supposed to be fun, not competitive. Ever since TTK, the crucible is a hell of a bad place for the average player (I would like to have fun in the crucible without having to face quickscopers and crutch users). In short, bring back the old crucible, but balance out the exotics in pvp.
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Ha ha! I'm done. No RoI. I'm not buying that garbage. Bungie can go suck a Dick and eat an ass.
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Edited by zarquon25: 8/17/2016 4:16:47 PMSBMM has been cranked up to 11. Several lobbies in a row in IB where people only use Hand Cannons. In some maps I feel forced to use the Last Word to stand a chance. I played games with people who compete in tournaments. Add to that the 1-2 red bars in a lobby. When those guys get host the game goes to shit. Derek Carroll should be forced to play with a 2,0kd account for a week and see how much fun this current shit show is.
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I'm tempted on canceling my preorder, how the -blam!- can y'all introduce new shit when the foundation of the game is broken..WE DON'T -blam!-IN WANT SBMM OR REDBAR WARRIORS, THEY FINISH FIRST BECAUSE THEY ARE -blam!-IN CHEATING, I CAN'T HIT SHIT WHEN IM REDBAR.
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Edited by zarquon25: 8/17/2016 12:32:16 PMJust some typical lag from two days of playing. At this point I don't even bother to clip everything since Bungie doesn't listen. Teleporter from the Middle East: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ8KVmYXHO8 Teleporter from Norway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ZGJEnlzsI
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Look, these settings have changed nothing. I'm still getting shot 2 or more meters around at least 1 corner. Shoulder Charge is hitting straight vertical (I don't think it's supposed to do that). I'm still getting hit by explosions from what seems like light years away from said explosions. I'm still getting sniped by all melee types. I'm constantly getting shot when the guy isn't facing me or said guy is seemingly sprinting. The hit detection flat out doesn't work multiple times (albeit sometimes it's during an an ability that has invincibility frames that I don't know about). I'm still constantly spawning with 2+ enemies looking at me. I'm still having laggy ammo box pickups. Supers of all varieties are hitting me before any animation goes through. The map rotation is filled with bad maps that either need major tweaking or just need to be removed from 6v6, the weight of the maps is off (I'm almost positive that Firebase Delphi and the Phobos map are in this rotation). Yeah that's about it...
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Thanks for the help, I have never seen so many red bars in match after match and at the top of the leader board. Good job, nice damage referee. Lol
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[spoiler]Made You Look[/spoiler]
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Players shooting you while facing away from you. Nova bombs and shadow shots STILL shooting without animations. Rockets STILL hitting center mass for 3 damage. Trip mines completely and utterly non functional most of the time. Spawning into games in progress where players have heavy and charged supers (how you never thought to give JIP players at least half of their super meter after two years is mind blowing) Living in one of the most populated cities in the U.S., yet the game will search for 5 minutes or more to find me players in Brazil, Spain and the UK to play against. Shoulder charge hitting from every impossible angle imaginable. I don't mind playing against good players most games because I can hang. What I do mind is that skill goes flying out the window in half the games because the lag is so bad.
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Edited by JHarv: 8/16/2016 9:55:49 PMSBMM still in full effect. 3 games played, 1 started 5v4, 1 was against a fireteam of sweaty kids, 1 was in a queue vs a ft of 5 when we were just singles so I left before it started. Matchmaking still sucks BBC And then in game, there were awkward trades, deaths after the other guy was dead for half a second, and bullets strangely not registering until a dude was around a corner and the hit markers finally showed up. Match me with good connections please. Match me with people who aren't in Latin America or Europe and beyond, please.
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It seems that the pendulum has shifted strongly back to connection based (CBMM). Where I was maintaining 1.5ish kd's and up often times (never negative), now I'm RARELY positive. I'm matched with players that are now [b][i][u]significantly[/u][/i][/b] better than me and I typically just get screwed. Stop listening to the small but vocal percentage of elite pvp'ers (they are good enough they should be able to handle a match against others of similar skill instead of preying on the rest of us), SBMM sets matches with teams of similar kd and elo and results in enjoyable, yet challenging games with only a rare few blowouts. No reason you can't run a hybrid as well. Prioritize connection in the first block of the search, once that net is set and the player base is found, cast another net based on skill, bada bing you have a proper match. This is really not that complicated.
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Edited by darkkunai1: 8/16/2016 8:51:47 PMFirst game great second great third one laggy shotty its looking good thanks bungie iron banner.
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This match making is terrible.
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