Huh? Lol I'm saying they were op in pve, they made the nightfall strikes feel like a daily story mission haha. And I've been playing since the game began little man, I appreciate both pve and pvp.
I'm not saying they should come back into the game, I'm just saying if they do, then there has to be a more difficult prerequisite than just beating the raid. The best gear for the best players. That's how it should always be.
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There are great players who will never do the raids without matchmaking and mediocre players who will get carried through raids by friends who are better.