Rate of fire wins eh bungie? This is your "gun variety"? there is no reason at all to use anything but a grasp for pulse rifle choice. Your "balance" is a joke and takes things like "annoyance" into account. you are annoying bungie nerf yourselves.
What we need is for the high impact pulse rifles to have their stability back. No more needing to have counterbalance to use them. This is NOT a nerf post I do not want any pulse rifles nerfed. The fast firing pulses are in a good place right now, so lets bring the other pulses in line with that.
EDIT-all of you saying "spare change" show me a vid of you 2 bursting someone without a god roll on it post high impact pulse nerf (or with a lyudmila of any perks at all). I'm talking no counterbalance braced frame/handlaid stock headseeker rolls. i haven't seen even one of these drop year 2 and I've spent way more time than should be acceptable in the crucible.
Lol no weapons of light either now that I think about it.
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That's why mlg laughs at this game currently..maybe if they stop nerfing and start buffing, the crucible would be better..this game isn't like cod where you can jump on with any gun and do pretty decent
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Lol no one can 2 burst w a spare change or Lyudmila D....spare change recoil and visual kick is absolutely atrocious...the gun pretty much shoots straight to the right lol...even w counterbalance and hand laid stock...worst gun I ever shot, even worse then the Fabian Strategy...
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Spare change is a two burst
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I miss my hopscotch pilgrim.
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Check out this post. It's the same concept, but with hand cannons.
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The med to low rof need some tlc i like my red death and spare change
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Personally I think this is the only problem with the balance in crucible
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It's been a while since I've played but I remember two bursting people with my spare change. A little hard with grasps flinching you all over the place though. Should be on my hunter though if you wanted to see the gun.
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I have one with just hand laid i have teo burated but your right its very unreliable two burst it should hit atleaat 36 and nirwins hit 33
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i think malok is 4
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Agreed. Please bring back my Super POX VLO. lol
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Bungie does't want, nor has ever attempted balance Their goal is to change all metas, to continuously change and to control how we play. It also adds to the grind(hours played), when we farm guns/gear and create new characters.
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You're definitely right....the vendor roll nerwins mercy should be basically destroying everything, but sadly it's not. If I combine it with gunslinger Trance, it becomes a great pulse rifles, but I shouldn't have to depend on an ability perk to make my weapon useful.
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My Lyulmilda has rangefinder heatseeker and braced frame. Still doesn't even come close to my pdx OP is right same bursts to kill severely lower TTK
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Edited by defnotlightarc: 7/25/2016 7:39:24 PMThey just need to fine tune the range of the pulses and that solves the issue
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I can occasionally 2-burst people with Nirwen's Mercy and Lyudmila-D. I prefer them over the faster firing pulse rifles.
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This is how pulses should be for me: Spare Change type: 2 burst if 4 of 6 shots hit head. Nirwen's type: 2 burst if all shots hit head. Hawksaw type: 3 burst if 6 of 9 shots hit head. Grasp type: 3 burst if all shots hit head.
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I have a "god roll"[spoiler]i fcuking hate that term, but for the sake of being concise lol[/spoiler] LyudmilaD [i]and[/i] Spare Change and i think I've 2 shot maybe a dozen times since they nerffed them in January? or was it November? I don't remember. they need a buff for the 3 bursts, 4 head 2 body for the 4 bursts, 6 head, 2 body I honestly think it's the range nerf more than the damage, because now if you're 1 step out the severe damage drop off will get you killed, good aim or not
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Hakke pulses have two burst kill capabilities. That is all.
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I have a spare change with counterbalance, hand laid stock and feeding frenzy. It will 2 burst but you have to be surgical with it. I like it quite a bit tbh. The gun is on my warlock if you wanna look.
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I have a counterbalance, glass half full, braced frame spare change. It. -blam!-ing. Sucks.
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PVP is crap because high rate of fire weapons win just about every engagement. Think of the meta lets look at the winning guns. If you are not using one of the below guns your at a disadvantage immediately. Hand Cannon - Last Word Auto Rifle - Doctrine Pulse Rifle - Grasp/Hawksaw/Pdx45 Scout Rifle - Mida
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Same with hand cannon
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Edited by ThundersDestiny: 7/24/2016 12:46:59 PMGrasp=4 burst Hawksaw=3 burst/4 burst on high armor targets Red Death=3 burst Spare Change=2 burst This is how is should be... Also to make sure that Low Rof pulses don't become op by 2 bursting reduce the rate of fire Edit:This is how I think it the pulse meta should be not how it is some people were confused
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I've got a spare change with head seeker, braced frame, and third eye. I wrecked iron banner with it. 36-39 to the head. I've also got one with feeding frenzy and counterbalance. I've also got another one with glass half full and something else.
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Edited by Hope: 7/24/2016 4:37:34 PMI too have never seen a Spare Change Y2 drop with Counterbalance. I normally check when someone else receives one in Crucible. Seen a couple of players post they have one and yes, it does exist but never seen one drop myself.