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Edited by SquattingTurtle:
7/29/2016 7:22:31 AM
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Am i supposed to not use radiance in pvp?
Foreward: I think many of the classes could use some work to make them more fun/interesting
[u][b]Some ideas i've had over the past couple years:[/b][/u]
-Make solar grenades either do more damage/larger/blind targets so it actually deters people
-Grenades thrown while in radiance blind/disorient enemies nearby
-[b]Song of flame has a unique visual as well as a rune circle in the area of effect[/b]
-Make solar wind knock targets far back like a cabal shield. (normal damage)
or
-Solar wind has increased cooldown (back to original) but grants over-shield for 10 seconds to allies in immediate area. (like the night-stalkers invisible smoke nade)
or
-your melee is a cone shaped plume of fire that does one melee amount of damage at range.
note: HotPF only gives me one extra grenade throw during my super, real exotic there.
Rant: its ridiculous how easy it is to kill a sunsinger mid ult. Its embarrassing really.
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I think that it might be cool if when using radiance, the sunsinger nades r as good as they used to be. that sounds balanced to me
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1 ReplyEdited by SquattingTurtle: 7/29/2016 7:20:30 AMShameless bump, i'd feel better knowing that bungie has heard my ideas. Not many people play sunsinger in pvp it seems. For some reason it wont let me edit the title.
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Aaaaye! Turtle club! Awesone idea man!
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I ran duel fusion and duel flame shield with increased damage resistance during radiance in IB yesterday and hit rank 5 from 0 in like 5 games by completing bounties. Several times I took on multiple people(2-4) while in radiance with little issue. Yes the subclass took a hit but it is still very viable in pvp. [spoiler] Also I rarely play pvp. Usually only when IB is going on or it's needed for a quest so if I can do well with it...Stands to reason others can too[/spoiler]
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5 RepliesI agree, Sunsingers need a VERY DEEP cleansing soon. SO here's my thoughts on how: 1) Increase defense while using Radiance (at the very least just on activation with Fireborn) 2) Activating Radiance creates orbs of lights 3) Buff Song of Flame, it should be like my teammates are wearing mini Hearts of the Praxic Fires. Maybe extend it to the player using it as well. 4) Completely rework Solar Wind, its the shittiest perk on the subclass and I've never met anyone who uses it seriously. Make it like Surge for the Voidwalkers (increase speed), give it the old Viking Funeral ability (longer, stronger burns), just GET. RID. OF IT. 5) Buff Viking Funeral so it lasts longer than 2 seconds, increase the bonus damage effect 6) Maybe extend Sunburst to enemies killed by the burn, not just scorch? (NOTE: enemy should be killed by burning effects, not a second grenade impact with the burning effect) 7) BUFF. ANGEL. OF. LIGHT. Make it last longer and give us an armor boost while using it mid-air. Please Bungie, make an actual cool perk useful in PvP. 8) Buff Solar Grenade damage (both impact and continually damage from inside)
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47 RepliesEdited by Synge_X: 7/21/2016 10:43:06 PMI'm sorry man but you are wrong. Sunsinger is objectively one of the best classes in PVP. Everyone on the forums is crying because it's not enough that they are awesome, this community wants overpowered or nothing. What I'm going to say is based on facts and not on crybaby PVP bullshit. 1. SS Warlocks lead all classes by a large margin in melee kills 2. SS warlocks are NOT the worst super and sit right in the middle and has in fact, the highest super kill count than all other warlock subclasses. 3. SS warlocks lead considerably in grenade kills. 4. SS is the most used class by Warlocks by a large margin. There is no way, in any known universe that with numbers like this, that absolutely destroy most other classes, could SS be such a crappy class. These observations are based on July numbers. If the sun singer warlock class was so devastated like you say, we would've seen considerable numbers dropping. Every class has suffered tweaks, and now that it's your favorite class, you are so downtrodden and sorry for yourself. Take this as a learning moment. You're wrong and that's ok. Every stat and number has proved this. Don't let a patch note mentally break you down and cast doubt on your gameplay. Step it up guardian, take your licks, get out there and kick some ass. Source: http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population
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Check my games this ib with sunsinger i did amazing! Imagine if it was actually good! In 16 games i had about 100 000 score :) but it still needs a buff Show spoiler
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Well... Firebolts were good... Unfortunately you need to consider how lethal the whole build is... And that did not happen.
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8 RepliesI mean it's not like the ability to come back from the dead is powerful or anything Not like it can undo what some supers do Not like it can make killing someone a waste of time as they come back more powerful Noooooo sunsingers are useless
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Edited by goldstarlestelle: 7/25/2016 1:23:16 AMThe extremely few SS I saw this IB were dead ones. Their super isn't that great for PvP imo. Their super is much more of a PvE one where there is alot of ememies in a pretty much staric location who dont move much. Most (not all) subclasses with offensive supers if you see them comming at mid to close range and they see you. More often then not tou will die. Not with SS though. It's really easy to make them miss a grenade throw more often then not. I main a Warlock in PvE and PvP.
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8 RepliesBro it sucks because sungingers are pretty much only used for pve now and defenders are mainly pve but all the hunter subclasses are pve and pvp strong. Something needs to change i would prefer a buff over a nerf
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2 RepliesWe sun singers are a dying breed.
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1 ReplyFor PVP I like to run Radiant Skin over Fireborn, you're way more durable but loose the coming back from the dead. Gift of the Sun with Fusion grenades is a must for me as well.
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8 RepliesI have yet to see one single sunsinger this iron banner. I'm sure they are out there but at this point they might as well be big foot or an honest statement from Hillary.
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started using it the other day and did quite well with the double slappy hands exotic. the melee is crazy. better using that than nades I found.
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Played sunsinger exclusively this Iron Banner on my warlock and killed it most games.
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6 RepliesIt's a support class, not a kill class. Just like defender and night stalker. Yes they get kills but their main is supporting others in times of need.
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Ok you press RB and LB at the same time when the bar above your ammo is yellow! Crazy right!?!?
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1 ReplyYesterday I said to my self. "AI just take Sunsinger to PvP" so I did. Radiant skin, max armor, double fusion nades. I was destroyed the super armor got phantom nerfed, all warlocks have -1 defense now, the fusion nade stickiness have been phantom nerfed the over shield melee is registering late. The Sunsinger is legit the worst subclass to use now in PvP. It can't support, selfrez is useless, song of flame is so bad even your team mates don't want it. And please don't mention solar nades. All warlocks use Void Walker or Stormcaller.
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Use whatever you like...
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Yes we all know it went from top 3 to the very absolute bottom
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Nah man didn't you hear your a scrub unless tour a titan now a days lmao
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Radiance and mayhem matches are pointless because you can hardly resurrect because all of the quick respawn in another area. I think this is unfair to a particular use of the warlock
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1 ReplyIn bungies words while not out performing other supers or been over used it was causing confusing situations ie streaming head glitchers didnt like it if you fire bolted them and they had to move god forbid they coudnt head glitch you or if you self resed and one punched them thats a no no come on man its all about the twitch whores
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Edited by Element Samurai: 7/22/2016 1:37:42 AMYou can use it, you just gotta be smart with it.
