Shot package , Hammer Forged need to be perks on shotguns again . The range currently on shotguns are a joke they don't always one hit kill even directly in a persons face . Something needs to be done to improve them . High risk great reward is what the shotgunners playstyle is supposed to be but it doesn't even feel like that's the case
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Shotguns have ghost bullets !!!
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100% need to be looked at. The inconsistency is ridiculous. High risk/high reward has been taken out of the equation because you have to get within melee range to get a kill when a warlock can kill you with greater range from a melee attack.
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make pvp fast paced and fun again more players will rush and play more aggressive if they know that secondary weapons are efficient options to use . Side arms and fusion rifles are very strong but shotguns need a slight buff in performance to compete .
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I'm fine if they buff stability, movement speed, reload, and damage against AI, but the range seems fine
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Edited by Xii Alpha iiXx: 7/23/2016 12:45:20 PMIs this a joke. It's a joke right? Shotguns have more kills on average then some primaries but shotguns need a buff...wait what? This op has jokes. OP doesn't know about shotgun melees. Gotta work on that finger skill. Trigger/melee. Which is better overall considering every character has a melee to regen health or overshield I would rather follow up with the health regen/overshield melee then be left with low health.
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They need a pve only buff again
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You didn't give a choice of "no the need a nerf" because they need a nerf. I love how people bitch about how when other players say something needs a nerf but the fact of the matter is bungie never ever never ever ever ever neve ever buffs anything. So all we can do is call for a nerf. Deal with it, things will hardly ever get a buff ever so to balance things out other op gear or weapons need to be nerfed, shot is one of those, so are snipers.
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I'm actually surprised to see a post requesting a buff for shotguns. That's kinda funny.
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Sure, but we can all agree universal is a problem
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Edited by Atomic: 7/23/2016 5:22:42 AMYes not too much though just enough to take snipers off the meta
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Yes, but no. Some shotguns are god teir right now. (UR, Conspiracy, Party) While others are meg or just plain bad. (Morgue, Dead Orbit shotgun that's so bad I forgot it's name. Crucible shotgun.)
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Range needs to switch between the high and low impact archetypes.
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Edited by KalelKryptonian: 7/22/2016 5:30:56 AMQuick Answer absolutely not. If I shotguns can one hit kill you from 5 yards away or less they are either cheating somehow or shotguns are buff enough
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Only one shot gun that i know of needs a buff....chaperone. its not even a damage buff its a slight buff to range. Its a 2 shot to the body and 1 to the head so it wobt be op.
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I usually stick with a sniper like the stillpiercer or longbow but when I change to a shotgun I just destroy everyone. They seem pretty consistent to me. Or that may just be my 2 rangefinder + range boosting perk party crashers.
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They are fine as is. Just fix the phantom bullets.
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Heres how we improve them, REMOVE THEM
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Not unless they double the range on Fusions
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Need to increase the range on fusions first
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Edited by Kirby235711: 7/20/2016 7:34:07 PM-Deal less damage than snipers -Require you to be in arm's reach -Handle like heavy weapons [b]YES PLEASE.[/b] --from every PvE-er
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Only if the conspiracy theory D gets a range nerf. The reason shotguns where a problem in year one where the range stats on high impact shotguns. The lower impact ones where fine but where nerved regardless.
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Use the Universal Remote, I too am a shotgunner, and have been since I started playing but my style of play was changed a lot when shotguns were hit by the Nerf truck. But recently I was being killed by the Universal Remote a lot, and I mean A LOT. So, naturally I got curious and decided to use it and, I was surprised how well it works. If you can use it and a special slot as a shotgun it's game over every time. My second game using the Universal Remote was in rumble and I got a Sum of All Tears medal. So, if you want to use a shotgun that feels more like year one, I'd say use it.
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Giving shottys more range will eliminate the little skill the take to use. Shottys take alot of movement skill and if you cant do that then learn how to get closer
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Anyone who says that "[i]shertgerns nerd a berf, pls bungy[/i]" must have a mental disorder. These same people must also believe that their shotgun is their primary weapon and that it should one shot. What category are shotguns? [u]SPECIAL[/u], meaning that they are only good in different situations. NOT [u]PRIMARY WEAPONS[/u] Saying shotguns need a buff is like saying the Minecraft immunity isn't cringe-ey.