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6/15/2016 12:11:57 AM
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Challenge of the Elders - Changes make it NO FUN

Challenge of the Elders - Hard to get points or even finish off the Boss Round 1 - starts with Keksis the Betrayed Seems to be way too hard now - not sure if it is a bug ? It's definitely NO FUN anymore like this.
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  • Completely agree, I tried it and even with two of us killing ads and one constantly dpsing boss still lost over 12,000 points definitely not fun at all.

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  • Yea I agree. It should be a challenge but GOT DAMN! This is a whole new level of nonsense. U can't get shit for points cuz the one dude continuously depletes your super bar. The cabal dude is a shit show with his shields and invincible psion flayer buddies spanking my bare ass the entire time. Hunters don't have shit for melee n they die so damn quick. All this and the new timer point reduction is def annoying. I agree it was way too easy and a joke before but dayyyyuuum it's a pain in the keister now

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    • So it seems I was correct 5 players who exploited their way to the CoE emblem reward are responsible for the changes to the points deduction Well all I have to say is "thanks guys for spoiling the game for everyone else, I hope your emblem was worth it"

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    • I agree completely, and it's not only the coe it's the strikes too. The game is getting to the point it is not fun anymore. I can see a lot of people quitting the game.

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    • Have to agree. The CoE 42 is no fun this week. Whether from the patch or a combination of mods, enemies, and bounties I don't know. It just isn't fun to play.

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      • Thank you for bringing this up. Just did my first COE since the update. Knew about the increasing point decrease with variks but did not know it was going to hit so hard. We only earned about 32,000 points but only got roughly 20,300 with all the deductions from variks. Plus used to be if you absorbed Keksis's corrupted light, it was like he had to wait a while before he could spawn more explosives. Now, you take his corrupted light and he pretty much spawns a new one immediately. I personally do not mind the increase in points taken, but it seemed like they were being taken a lot more frequently.

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        • They sure ruined this for me..COE was an activity I could just go in and chill for 40 to 60min when I didnt have time to raid and weather the rewards were good or not I didnt care much sence it wouldnt take to much time to do but now it took me almost 2hr to just make over 60,000 in 2 runs. This just feels like a boring grind now and the random rewards do not justify it so Im just going to drift away from it and see if Bungie even desides to change it back..I dont mind difficult activities , but this was a dumb thing to do and it makes the Prision boring again cause of the repetitive grind. I rather do it in 2 to 3 runs and be done with it in 40min then doing this in 3 runs in 2hr or more just to get the same queen weapons I dont need

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        • Totally agree games are fundamentally ment to be fun, these changes as well as the 2 negative modifiers are not fun. Bungie uses cold calculations to balance game play and have over looked the fun aspect. Hopefully bungie will look at the stats again which i predict alot lower numbers playing coe. Imagine if you will the group on the original bungie stream playing coe, play this weeks coe. Could they do it effectively?

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          • Edited by Saxifraga: 6/16/2016 9:28:39 PM
            It's easy. But yes, trickle is bullshit and sucks the fun out of the game. Game designers should always empower the player and also sometimes the enemy.

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          • Just had my 15 year old son tell me he didn't want to play Destiny anymore. When I asked him why, he said because they keep making changes to the parts of the game that he and I both enjoy playing together. He doesn't like playing with other people because they either don't want to play with kids, or because they are just mean. And when we finished our first CoE of the week, and only had 16k points total...he just looked depressed. So many thoughts going through my head right now...but mostly I just want Bungie to un-do what they have done to CoE. Come up with a more comprehensive adjustment for the game that DOESN'T ruin it for players like my son and me.

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            • With trickle it's not very fun at all

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            • Edited by xxpatchy101xx: 6/16/2016 7:40:34 PM
              This week for sure makes it not worth doing but the issue I have is how many points you lose now because variks gets impatient. I wish for challenge they made it so variks at some point in the round releases more enemies, or add another boss in to make it shield brothers like. Im just tired of trying to run it, I'm not in a rush to complete it nor am I the slowest player in there, but always looking up and oh variks took more points away from my team.

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            • Git gud If you stand in the circle you don't lose your super And Make sure you get assists as well I use just tag everything on left and then go right for the kills And No matter what supers generate the most points regardless of the buff that week

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            • Trickle just sucks, swords should count as melee it be fun. This week isn't worth doing.

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              • I was just about to make a new post on this very topic. Challenge is now not worth doing, Keksis is no fun at the best of times, I find the actual continuous black/white screens give me a headache, the fact it always takes any super and suppression on grenades etc constantly a real bug-bear and this week with trickle although my int/disc is 300 I never even got my super once during the whole round is just ridiculous. I have problems (health) playing constantly for long periods (yes 45 mins for me is a long time) so me and my playing partner (yes we always do it as a 2 man team) always had a few minute break between rounds, yes we lost points but that wasn't a problem as we could easily get over 30000 each time with breaks each run would take between 45 and 50 mins Now it seems because Bungie in their wisdom decided to introduce some stupid emblem as a reward for the highest score which introduces a reason why people will go to extreme lengths to get the reward that they have make this points deduction change. If you look at the winners of the "reward" from a couple of weeks ago the team, which used 5 players spent over 9 hours just popping bubbles, one guy in the team had 19920 points but not one single kill!! Bungie now have decided to make it no fun for the majority of players who actually play the game as intended, yes of course there will be people who will say "it's easily doable" and yes for them it probably is, but we are not all youngsters with high skill nor do we all play in a 3 man fire-team, as I said I always do it as a 2 man team and there are many people who either like the challenge of soloing it or for many reasons do not play in a team, although I challenge anyone to complete a full run without any deductions and make the 30000, which means the deduction timing is completely wrong. So for me CoE is no longer a fun activity so I will no longer bother to do it.

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                • The same people who were racking up scores will not be overly affected. They are in the top 10% who will still do just fine. The people this will directly affect are the ones who struggled with getting the 30,000 in 1 run for the weapon. These people are now being punished again because of the elites who find most any game they play easy. It's a constant with this game that once the few shine the rest eventually pay.

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                  • Everyone bitched that it was too easy. Now that it's harder you're still complaining.

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                  • Its just the modifiers and bosses trust me. Trying to melee a phalanx is real fun [spoiler]It really isn't :/[/spoiler]

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                    • I was already losing steam and made a promise to a friend that I would stop if it had the Cabal Strategist this week. Keksis was miserable, but when round 2 had the strategist, I felt certain Bungie was trying to make a statement. Now I'm not only done with CoE, but I'm done with the game entirely. It had a nice run. Time to ride Division until Titanfall 2 comes out. Also saves me $40 on the new DLC. Funny how I probably would have purchased it had they just kept the game the same between now and then.

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                      • Overcoming challenge is not fun to you? Is playing the game a frustration that gets in the way of lootlust? Not enough trophies? Make it harder! I still roll it steady well under the recommended light level,same as ever.

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                        • WHO EVER PUT TRICKLE WAS AN IDIOT. WAITING 3 mins using Monte Carlo and throwing knifes at tier 5 strength was like waiting for grandma to get to the store and back

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                        • I can't believe the number of people who complain about this being to hard.. lets remember a few things.. we asked for tougher more challenging content AND this is end game activities.. its not supposed to be a cake walk.. if you want it to be easy go back to year 1 prison or lvl 41 prison.. lvl 42 should have some difficulty, and it shouldn't be easy for everyone. Sure most weeks I have scored 55k to 65k in COE either on my own or with a fireteam, this week we have had it tougher and hit about 45k. glad for the challenge.. don't want it always easy. time to earn those rewards guardians.

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                        • I don't know, I played CoE once before and after the update and it really doesn't seem all that different to me. I never really even notice when Variks takes away points.

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                          • You need to play better scrub

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                            • too many players (myself included) have been soloing it for Bungie's taste. they need to just accept that anything balanced and fun for 3 people (without gimmick mechanics or a time limit) is going to be soloable for some. It doesn't help that this week's modifiers are so scummy. two negative modifiers and the slowest attack mode there is for the bonus. Sure fresh troops make more targets, but also take longer to kill and set off that increased negative modifier

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                            • What is with everybody on this forum? If I ( A 17 year old) can get 23700 and get my mom (who has arthritis) the dregs promise this week, why is it so hard? All I did was max out strength and use shoulder charge/transfusion

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