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5/23/2016 7:49:56 PM
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The Truth about SBMM in Destiny: How it affects the community
After researching stats / testing out PVP on a new account, simply turning SBMM off isn't the answer. Far more people will be hurt by the change than we think. I'm not saying every gaming being ultra competitive is right either.... but we need to look a the greater good instead of what is best for the top players.
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It needs to be turned off. Researching hahahaha. Get rekt dude
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Edited by cuzzybubba1: 5/30/2016 12:48:07 AMMtash so deep in Bungie ass this video is a joke. You presented no statistical evidence from your hours spent researching just spouted off about your bloated KD and how it tanked since TTK SBMM.
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PvP is a joke again, the lag is worse than ever. Bungo are well aware of the situation but either they are too incompetent to fix it or they just don't give a fcuk. The game is coming to an end, it's lifespan almost over, bungie have our money and we have our sh1te. Nothing we can do about it only remember the way we were treated next time they try to sell a game.
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You know, you're actually getting facts and people hate. How ironic that people can't understand the other side of the SBMM "issue".
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Edited by ChubbierParrot1: 5/29/2016 9:03:50 PMGood post. But i do think it might be too late. I find myself completely disenchanted with pvp now. Im a casual i like to play for fun, bounties, friends. But here in the past couple of weeks i shutter at the thought of pvp. Trials is a cluster jam in my opinion. My question is... how can a person go flawless and still be allowed back into the general pool of players again.
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12 RepliesYou speak for 1% of the community. You like the queen bees and the rest are jus the workers? Yer m8. In the hood you the snitch. You bungies biatch.
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If you're constantly playing people on your skill level, you will never improve in crucible. I would take connection over skill 100% any day of the week. Getting matched up against someone in China or any other country is aids.
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The community is already corrupted by the meta. We need to kill out the YouTubers that sit there advertising the latest meta weapons
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I don't support SBMM because of the immense lag involved.
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Its not even about the top players! As a below average pvp denizen i am in full favor of bringing cbmm back. Sure, there may be some matches with god level crucible warlords that stomp your team, but that shit already happens! Matchmaking already pits teams of randoms against full fireteams over and over and over again! I played 2 hours of rift on tuesday, and won one game. Why? Because for 6 games in a row i played full fireteams. Not to even mention the LAG good GOD the lag is awful now. Instead of one red bar you have all green bars but it still takes like 3 seconds from when you last pulled your trigger for the kill to register. Firefly procs like 3 seconds later on snipes. Not even gonna talk about shooting people around corners. Sbmm doesnt work. Like 1/5 games are balanced. The rest youre either getting smashed to shit or completely destroying folk.
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3 RepliesI support SBMM. I am [u]not[/u] good at Destiny. Having played against extremely skilled players on rare occasions, I can say that it is not fun. Dying more times than I reload is a bad experience. Why don't people like it? It makes the game feel too competitive all the time, being against players at your skill level? They should consider that if there were no SBMM, they could be put in situations where they could dominate everyone on the opposite team, and even over their teammates. Consider their perspectives: enemy team is constantly dying, and the teammates are never getting kills.
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I stay keep it on but matches you with people in your area
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It's hard to give an opinion on something that we don't have all the information on. For instance, what's the exact formula for matching us against opponents? Is it within .1 of a players k/d? Is it based on kd+a? Is it based on win percentage? Blindly allowing the implementation of a rule is the same as agreeing with said rule. And without all the info, I won't agree.
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7 RepliesEdited by Brokenspade: 5/26/2016 1:37:00 AMI'm not a top player. My k'd has never been positive. Never. Sbmm has ruined my experience and made it impossible for me to play with most of my friends list. Sbmm may save new players but if it's in destiny 2 Bungie is going to lose invested and reliable customers. A lot of my friends have agreed that if the next Destiny is sbmm. We won't buy anymore of Bungie's products. Ever again. It's that big of a down side.
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[i]Far more people will be hurt[/i] You mean all the buddies you play with mtashed? Irrelevant post is irrelevant.
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Bah! I deride your truth handling abilities! [spoiler]I SO wish Truth's flavor text was changed to this. Your move, Bungie![/spoiler] Jk I actually agree with OP. I don't seem to experience as much lag as others though. Although I'm sure there's quite a bit of exaggeration going on as well (blame the lag!!1!).
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Meanwhile, I'm playing Smite which has ranked games for when I feel like trying hard and using the best gods, and unranked games for when I feel like trying out new gods, new builds, or simply messing around. I used to love Destiny. Check out my recent play times, and you'll see the affection has faded. Now I only play when a friend asks me to, and even then it's rare. I'm holding on to the hope that it'll be fun again, so I check in on forums, but I'm not convinced it will be.
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The fear of implementing ranked playlists is fragmenting the population, but skill based matchmaking seeks to keep the players separated without even asking. I'm a fan of freedom and being able to do something even if it isn't, "the best thing".
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How does melee affect destiny [spoiler]jk pls dunt hurt meh[/spoiler]
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Edited by zJDz: 5/27/2016 3:17:00 PMEasy fix. CBMM social lobby and SBMM ranked lobby. Now everyone is happy. Make legendaries only drop in ranked lobby this will keep people playing both ranked and unranked. SBMM is the reason their are so many NERF posts. People confuse player skill with weapons being overpowered.
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8 RepliesEdited by Killlerschaf: 5/26/2016 1:24:40 AMIf you seriously believe that anyone in his right mind was advocating for the complete removal of SBMM, I think that you didn't understand the issue at hand. Also let's be honest: Destiny is laggy, unbalanced, has rotating meta games, doesn't have a league or ladder system, doesn't have private matches, doesn't use dedicated servers with a form of region lock, and it definitely isn't even close of becoming a legit esport in its current form. Given that infrastructure, a focus on SBMM simply doesn't make sense. Now let's look at Halo: Uses dedicated servers, is balanced, has custom matches, has social/ranked playlists, doesn't have a rotating meta, is a legit esport for years already and uses a league/ladder system. For Halo, SBMM makes perfect sense, because it has the infrastructure to support it, and was build from the ground up for competitive play. On top of that, Destiny doesn't even reward playing good. You can have a 20.0 KD, but the same chance for loot like the guy with a 0.05 KD. Since there is no ladder system, it's also not like you could actually brag in game about your gold/plat/diamond status. Because of the stated goal of a 50/50 W/L preservation, you might as well not even try to win. And if you aren't playing with a fireteam, you're basically doomed anyhow, but if you play with a fireteam of equally skilled players, you're pubstomping 3s/6s. The solution is pretty simple: Let's all accept that Destiny is a laggy casual game, and let's give such a game the matchmaking it needs (which is not the one Halo is using).
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Hey ding dong... you're talking about the top 5%. They make up such a small part of the player base that's it pretty unlikely a casual player would run into them, especially more than once. I'd rather roll the dice on player skill level than a shitty walmart connection.
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6 RepliesSBMM is just fine, boring to mercy and pubstomp in every game, lag is there sometimes but meh it just gives more challenge to this game, if people dont want to sweat in every game play trials, easiest and most casual gametype. Made a new gamertag to test out SBMM and played around 30 games now it has kd of 14 which is ridiculous, SBMM definately needs to stay or this game becomes too boring.
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Wat your saying isn't fully true, before sbmm in year 1. I started pvp in July 2015, I got wrecked in trials. So I stopped an practiced for a month and a half. Bs, wat ur saying. Ur basically saying forget the players before the new players. You missing the point, everyone wants 2 have FUN again. Not sweat every match an have 2 focus so hard. It's like good teams in life, nba an nfl for example. Some teams are dominant some arent, no one wants a Super Bowl or championship match everyday. Your taking up for cry babies who don't learn from getting beat, it's mental remember where you messed up, the head glitches an sniper lanes. A bs post man, all respect but fuk that. All soldiers have scars. Like Lord Shaxx says " THE CRUICIBLE IS NO PLACE FOR MERCY". but yet sbmm shows mercy for newbs. We just need rank matches an unranked. It should be a choice not option.
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Lol mtashed I love your vids, I just subscribed a few days ago after realising you did YouTube lmao.. don't ask how I didn't know that. Anyway, keep up the good work
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They should use the Truth on sbmm
